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I have to be honest. They're not entirely wrong. On one hand its great that MS is being so consumer friendly. But isn't their "Smart Delivery" approach a double edged sword, especially after the hype a simple tech demo created for ps5? Thoughts?

"We've been waiting for a while to finally see next-gen gameplay, for both the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, because it's arguably one of the biggest moments in a new console's reveal road - that moment when you see just how much the games themselves, not just the hardware, have been able to advance. We want to see something mind-blowing.

But we didn't get that from Microsoft. Instead we got 13 game reveals with 'Xbox Series X Optimized' badges and a lot of talk about Smart Delivery. We don't want to be told that these games will look better, we want to see it. I (personally) want a reason to upgrade, not to be stuck in a limbo between this generation and the next. All this focus on cross-gen by Microsoft is robbing us of that initial next-gen thrill."

https://www.techradar.com/news/xbox-series-xs-cross-gen-approach-is-robbing-players-of-the-next-gen-thrill

Last edited by goopy20 - on 17 May 2020

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goopy20 said:

I have to be honest. They're not entirely wrong. On one hand its great that MS is being so consumer friendly. But isn't their "Smart Delivery" approach a double edged sword, especially after the hype a simple tech demo created for ps5? Thoughts?

"We've been waiting for a while to finally see next-gen gameplay, for both the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, because it's arguably one of the biggest moments in a new console's reveal road - that moment when you see just how much the games themselves, not just the hardware, have been able to advance. We want to see something mind-blowing.

But we didn't get that from Microsoft. Instead we got 13 game reveals with 'Xbox Series X Optimized' badges and a lot of talk about Smart Delivery. We don't want to be told that these games will look better, we want to see it. I (personally) want a reason to upgrade, not to be stuck in a limbo between this generation and the next. All this focus on cross-gen by Microsoft is robbing us of that initial next-gen thrill."

https://www.techradar.com/news/xbox-series-xs-cross-gen-approach-is-robbing-players-of-the-next-gen-thrill

It's just a sweet words to comfort consumer and their loyal fans , in reality   their first party developer is not ready with the games to be fully build and push next gen. 

second they are focusing on gamepass which is marketed for current gen consumer 

Third, They also believe all third party will not moving on to next gen and will still provide cross gen title (which is actually true)

Also most PC gamers also still play on potato spec that they cannot ignore, they will wait until more people adapt to high spec machine.

So that's why they focus on 4k, 60 fps or "optimize for Xbox Series X" or perhaps 120 fps , "better look and play on Series X" etc.

It's my conclusion by reading a lot observation from many Industry expert in gaming Industry.



Haven't read it past the first line because its talking about the third party event, where third parties put their games has little to do with Microsoft and will be cross gen on PS5 too.

In regards to 1st party we'll have to wait til July to see whether Microsoft is making impressive use of the hardware or just rendering Xbox One games at 4k/&60fps.



The question is: will the next gen offer enough above the current gen? Current era games are usually limited by their budgets not the hardware. If the PS5 fulfils the next-gen thrill in the same way PS2->PS3 did then Microsoft is doing the wrong thing.

If the result of the next gen is that games look a little better and load a little faster but basically play the same, then Microsoft's approach of being "game collection centric" will be correct.



Hardly surprising; you're probably going to hear MS touting "4K! 60FPS!! RAYTRACING!!!" a LOT and the usual clowns will run with it in an attempt to dehype PS5's vastly more impressive exclusives. I expect 4K > 1440p to be the next 12 > 9.2 TFLOPS. Oh wait.. it's already happening.. Valhalla baby!

Everyone was talking about how great Microsoft's messaging was without paying any attention to what going crossgen actually meant, until it materialized to them lol.



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"....instead we were ploughed away with trailer after trailer which were cut together in such a way that we rarely got to see how the games play. There was very little 'X-factor' for a console with so many 'Xs' to its name." - Vic Hood @techradar

Lmao at the "very little x-factor, for a console with so many X's to its name" part.



Otter said:
Haven't read it past the first line because its talking about the third party event, where third parties put their games has little to do with Microsoft and will be cross gen on PS5 too.

In regards to 1st party we'll have to wait til July to see whether Microsoft is making impressive use of the hardware or just rendering Xbox One games at 4k/&60fps.

I think first few years, you'll see "just rendering xbox one games at 4k/60".



"Where was the pizzazz? The mind-blowing graphics? The huge step in gaming experiences that we've been waiting for?"

I think these morons forget we didn't really have that in 2013 either. Most was cross gen, while the next gen exclusives weren't amazing. Some of the most impressive games this gen came years later or will be here at the end.

Anyhow, another great find by goopy.



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Otter said:
Haven't read it past the first line because its talking about the third party event, where third parties put their games has little to do with Microsoft and will be cross gen on PS5 too.

In regards to 1st party we'll have to wait til July to see whether Microsoft is making impressive use of the hardware or just rendering Xbox One games at 4k/&60fps.

True but hasn't MS has already stated that all their 1st party games will be cross gen for the coming 2 years? In July they will be showing their bigger ip's like Halo and probably Forza, but won't they get the same reaction if they're all just have a "optimized for Series X" logo, and lack that next gen wow factor? 




If you paid some attention for instance towards the UE5 demo the main word for me was scalability.
Guess what that scalability isnt only in the UE5 but in most engines.
Dont worry with about double the power of the One X its going to look great

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