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Most people here are biased.

Those trying to say the PS5 will be powered by secret sauce, and those dismissing the differences of both the PS5 and XBSX, architectures in favour of one’s higher TFLOPS numbers or data access speed.

Right now, nobody here knows how both will perform compared to one another. Even though there’s little to no doubt the XBSX is a more powerful machine, trying to define how big or small the gap will be and calling it a day is at this point, well, pointless.

Some of you need to chill out with the bias based analysis and wishful thinking.




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It's going to come down to how big of a difference the ssd makes on the ps5, the increase in gpu speed, the io engines and overall architecture. But the thing is both systems use variable shading, and more importantly mesh shaders/primitve shaders, which will allow for huge worlds and detail while limiting costs, power usage. In terms of mesh shading, this is where ps5 might shine in exclusives due to the ssd. Even possibly in multiplats, in games with huge worlds, they can use the advantage of the ssd with mesh shading and free up resources to make up for the xbox advantage, which might go towards ray tracing or resolution.



Hynad said:

Most people here are biased.

Those trying to say the PS5 will be powered by secret sauce, and those dismissing the differences of both the PS5 and XBSX, architectures in favour of one’s higher TFLOPS numbers or data access speed.

Right now, nobody here knows how both will perform compared to one another. Even though there’s little to no doubt the XBSX is a more powerful machine, trying to define how big or small the gap will be and calling it a day is at this point, well, pointless.

Some of you need to chill out with the bias based analysis and wishful thinking.

What is this "secret" sauce? Only a few if anyone is dismissing the difference in TFs. The question is, how much of a difference is it really going to make. And NX analysis being biased? He says XSX has definitely more resources and PS5 won't be able to top that. There is no word of how the two gonna perform in detail.



Hunting Season is done...

Zoombael said:
Hynad said:

Most people here are biased.

Those trying to say the PS5 will be powered by secret sauce, and those dismissing the differences of both the PS5 and XBSX, architectures in favour of one’s higher TFLOPS numbers or data access speed.

Right now, nobody here knows how both will perform compared to one another. Even though there’s little to no doubt the XBSX is a more powerful machine, trying to define how big or small the gap will be and calling it a day is at this point, well, pointless.

Some of you need to chill out with the bias based analysis and wishful thinking.

What is this "secret" sauce? Only a few if anyone is dismissing the difference in TFs. The question is, how much of a difference is it really going to make. And NX analysis being biased? He says XSX has definitely more resources and PS5 won't be able to top that. There is no word of how the two gonna perform in detail.

You’re showing difficulties to keep up. Read the thread. It also helps to know what goes on in the forums in general.




It is funny seeing the "one is right" or "the other is right" when neither side or us have the hardware in hand and SW to test to be certain of anything. So stop with the ridiculous more people agree with X or Y, because that is useless.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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Hynad said:
Zoombael said:

What is this "secret" sauce? Only a few if anyone is dismissing the difference in TFs. The question is, how much of a difference is it really going to make. And NX analysis being biased? He says XSX has definitely more resources and PS5 won't be able to top that. There is no word of how the two gonna perform in detail.

You’re showing difficulties to keep up. Read the thread. It also helps to know what goes on in the forums in general.

No difficulty at all. It seems you are not up to it. 

I'll ask you again: What is this secret sauce? Who is biased? You draw paralells where are none. You are saying that one advantage (on paper) is valid, whereas the other advantage (on paper) and Sonys approach is a non existent "secret sauce".



Hunting Season is done...

Zoombael said:
Hynad said:

You’re showing difficulties to keep up. Read the thread. It also helps to know what goes on in the forums in general.

No difficulty at all. It seems you are not up to it. 

I'll ask you again: What is this secret sauce? Who is biased? You draw paralells where are none. You are saying that one advantage (on paper) is valid, whereas the other advantage (on paper) and Sonys approach is a non existent "secret sauce".

Hynad haven't done it as far as I know. But yes there are some people on Sony camp (haven't really see it in this forum) that think the SSD will make PS5 more powerful than XSX thus some are mocking it as secret sauce. Thing is that it isn't nearly as talked like that as was esram, cloud, directx and other secret sauce for X1 and on VGC the most I'm seeing is people saying that perhaps it may shrink the gap a little and that since both are different portions of the processing a game we may see advantages for PS5 in some type of games.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Captain_Yuri said:
Trunkin said:

I'm just sitting here wondering how the hell Sony and M$ are selling consoles with those specs for anything under $1000. I'm in need of a PC upgrade, and I've already given up on achieving parity with the XSeX because it throws the whole thing out of my price range. Let alone the GPUs and NVME drives.

The key thing to remember is... These consoles are not out yet and by the time they do come out which should be Holiday 2020, PC should have a good answer...

Ryzen 4000 series CPUs are on the horizon. Big Navi GPUs are on the horizon. Nvidia's 3000 GPUs are on the horizon. Samsung's 980 series Nvme SSDs that are rated to run at 6.5GB/s as well as their competitors are on the horizon. Unless they all get delayed which isn't impossible due to the virus, they should all come out at the same time or before the next gen console twins arrive.

Consoles will still have the best value as they always have but there's plenty of things coming out that will shorten the gap.

Yes its a bit silly, the timescales for upgrades are vastly different, PC is on a permanent short term cycle while a full console reset is getting close to 7 years.



Moore law is dead also created a good ps5 analysis, watch it guys.



Zoombael said:
Hynad said:

You’re showing difficulties to keep up. Read the thread. It also helps to know what goes on in the forums in general.

No difficulty at all. It seems you are not up to it. 

I'll ask you again: What is this secret sauce? Who is biased? You draw paralells where are none. You are saying that one advantage (on paper) is valid, whereas the other advantage (on paper) and Sonys approach is a non existent "secret sauce".

If you need me to point out everything, I have a suggestion, simply ignore my comments and don’t reply to me from now on. You are trying to antagonize me as it’s your habit in here. 
So, again, go try your shtick on someone else.