I think he's agreeing... 

Unless I'm an idiot. So so? 😋

It's a big marketing hurdle as you can see.

Budget conscious gamers are not early adopters. This SKU makes more sense in the second year and then maybe with 6tf for the same price.
If they don't care about the best graphics, why no simply play all the games on the current gen consoles for another year or 2?

The flops is a marketing problem

A cheaper (much slower) option looks like an anchor weight for its big brother. Now a 1/3rd as fast console has to be supported as well all next gen. For me it was actually the other way around. I was very close to buying a XBox One S, seemed to fix everything wrong with the first one. But then the X was announced as well. The S felt inferior from that point on but the X was CAD 600 here. So I ended up with neither.

It'd a retarded marketing hurdle is what it is. All I'm seeing on twitter these days are know nothing yobbos spreading fud about tflops this and tflops that.

You get crap like "Ain't nothin gonna beat X series X, there ain't no PC with enough flops to beat it!", and that's just one example of the crap some people spread over there. Colteastwood is doing a bang up job on spreading misinformation and making Tflops his main boasting point for Xbox, to a point where he's downplaying PS5's supposed specs, and then his fanboys downplaying PC at the same time.

I wish that Xbox's marketing team wasn't so high up on spreading bullshit information or trying to warp it to make it sound like it'd be something the casual or laymen folk would know about (but they don't, so now we're seeing this shit spread like wild-fire, just like "blast processing" from the old days). I honestly wish it'd stop, because it just makes some folk look really, really stupid.

I had my experiences with our marketing department. We had to add extra (crappy) features to out product because the wanted more bullet points on the box than the competition. It didn't matter if it worked well (or actually useful to anyone) as long as it could be mentioned on the box and used in those useless comparison boxes with tick marks. But it works to fool the general public.

I'm looking forward to the spec details marketing comes up with for next gen :)

Hopefully not true.

1) Either it will be left behind in dirt once we leave currentgen with bad ports. Plenty of 720p-900p games and zero ray tracing options on the platform.

2) It holds back next gen systems and is used as a base 1080p console, whilst PS5 & XSX simply get a resolution boost whereas before developers would of had free reign in how to use the 9-12Tflop GPU. Now they must ensure games look decent at 1080p on a 4Tflop system too.

Moreover I don't understand the need for releasing a system slightly better than X1X. MS said they will support current gen for 2 years, so if people want a cheaper system they can just buy X1X or even X1S. By the time next gen gets into full swing XSX will be cheaper. All the meanwhile people with 1080p TVs should able to benefit from higher graphic settings. 1080p 60fps Max setting modes should be the norm next gen as opposed to entirely different boxes being made for people 1080p TVs. Even those with 4k sets will sometimes want to pick fps & vfx (including ray tracing) over resolution.

You're missing the point, Microsoft NEEDS to compete with playstation, they wouldn't launch a much weaker console, unless they want to come in 3rd place yet again for the 3rd time. In fact that would be free advertising for sony, it would be all over gaming news and word of mouth that ps5 is way more powerful, everyone would just pay a bit more and get the ps5.

Maybe thats what microsoft wants, I get a feeling they've been wanting to quit gaming consoles for a long time now, they aren't even trying anymore.

If ps5 base console is 450dollars, it would be at least 9 teraflops, xbox would be a laughing joke if it is less than half the graphical power, people would just joke that it isn't even next gen while ps5 is the true next gen. Not to mention there wont even be exclusives on xbox for 2 years. No one would buy it. And a console without a disc drive? See how well the xbox one S all digital did? It didn't sell much at all. Most people would rather pay a bit more and get the option of disc drive.

Im not complaining about 4tf against the xbox X, Im looking how it compared to the competition next generation.

At 300dollars they would never in a million years put a 1terabyte ssd, that would cost half the price of the console parts (without the controller), unless they put HDD instead, the xbox X uses HDD not ssd.

Better price performance ratio than a PC upgrade?

And especially most PC users wouldn't have a problem with digital versions... since physical games on PC already died many years ago.

Both Geforce GTX 1650 Super (4.9 TFlops) and Radeon RX 5500 XT (5.2 TFlops) are on par with a Radeon RX 590 (7.1 TFlops).

The graphic performance of a 4 TFlops Lockhart would probably be on par with the 6.2 TFlops of the Xbox One X and wouldn't have the CPU-bottleneck.

So average performance of the Xbox One X with better frametimes / less slowdowns.
Similar performance in high resolutions, but better performance in FullHD.