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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xbox-Series-S-console-to-come-with-just-4-teraflops-of-GPU-performance-but-will-only-cost-US-300.456033.0.html

The rumor also says it may be digital only to help hit that price point. Less Tflops then Xbox One X but overall the specs can push higher resolution games. Could really shake things up, thoughts?



 

 

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What kind of SSD / HDD though?

Nice anchor weight for next generation is my thoughts.



Keep your SAD editions. Physical all the way! Why should someone buy this if they have a PC?

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Leynos said:

Keep your SAD editions. Physical all the way! Why should someone buy this if they have a PC?

PC gamers are not the target demographic for Lockhart/Series S. MS already puts all of their 1st party games on PC, and they have Gamepass on PC now. Lockhart/Series S is for budget conscious console gamers and gamers who only have 1080p tv's still and don't really need a 4k console yet. People who typically wait 2+ years into a generation to buy a new console, because they're waiting on price drops.

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SvennoJ said:
What kind of SSD / HDD though?

Nice anchor weight for next generation is my thoughts.

Original rumors were that it would have the same 1 TB SSD as Series X. I doubt they'd go smaller, since it's digital only and even 1 TB will fill up fast with next gen file sizes, and I also doubt they'll go larger if they're aiming for $300. 

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shikamaru317 said:
SvennoJ said:
What kind of SSD / HDD though?

Nice anchor weight for next generation is my thoughts.

Original rumors were that it would have the same 1 TB SSD as Series X. I doubt they'd go smaller, since it's digital only and even 1 TB will fill up fast with next gen file sizes, and I also doubt they'll go larger if they're aiming for $300. 

1TB SSD, that's at least a 3rd of the cost of the entire console. Considering it gets the same RAM and CPU, that seems too much. But the current SAD also has 1TB. Larger indeed not likely. Perhaps storage sold separately, who knows.

Also this extra version could impact availability of the big boy now the corona virus is affecting production. It might be better to postpone Lockhart. I imagine early adopters won't be interested in a 4Tf version.



shikamaru317 said:
Leynos said:

Keep your SAD editions. Physical all the way! Why should someone buy this if they have a PC?

PC gamers are not the target demographic for Lockhart/Series S. MS already puts all of their 1st party games on PC, and they have Gamepass on PC now. Lockhart/Series S is for budget conscious console gamers and gamers who only have 1080p tv's still and don't really need a 4k console yet. People who typically wait 2+ years into a generation to buy a new console, because they're waiting on price drops.

I just recently built a beefy PC, though I don't play many PC games.  Still don't have a 4k TV since they don't make em in 32".  Wouldn't get this Series S though.

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There is no way this is true, like at all

1 - There is no reason for a 300 dollar price point, consumers are more than willing to pay minimum 400 for next gen

2 - 4 Teraflops Is way below the current generation xbox X, even below the ps4 pro, that wont happen

3 - Microsoft will not risk the bad marketing and the jokes again this generation, launching a new gen console weaker than the current gen

4 - Microsoft will not risk launching a base console way weaker than ps5 base console, they cant afford it as they don't have the exclusives to swing them, unless they are trying for a reason to get out of the console market, possible

5 - If this is true then Ill definitely wait a couple years before I buy into Xbox again, because the future is too uncertain, unlike the ps5 which is guarantee huge success and many exclusives for at least 7 years.



shikamaru317 said:
Leynos said:

Keep your SAD editions. Physical all the way! Why should someone buy this if they have a PC?

PC gamers are not the target demographic for Lockhart/Series S. MS already puts all of their 1st party games on PC, and they have Gamepass on PC now. Lockhart/Series S is for budget conscious console gamers and gamers who only have 1080p tv's still and don't really need a 4k console yet. People who typically wait 2+ years into a generation to buy a new console, because they're waiting on price drops.

Actually they are, I don't have a PC, haven't had one for over 10 years, and I'm on the fence if I should go consoles or just build a PC next gen, I'd rather pay double and get a much better performing PC that can do a lot more than just games. The reason I jumped to consoles in 2006 was because I went to work abroad, but next year I will settle back home so Microsoft will need to convince me to buy the console instead of building the PC.

In fact building the PC will be free as I can sell my MacBook for 700 dollars and use that money. But a console cant replace my MacBook.

Buying the ps5 is a guarantee for me, because its guaranteed to have exclusives like Horizon 2, GT7, god of war and so on. But xbox wont have any exclusive, ever, it will be on PC.

I also miss a lot playing strategy and management games, I have wonderful memories of command and conquer and restaurant empire back in the day, you cant get those experiences on console either, that's one thing pushing me to build a PC.

My main concern was electricity, but new PC components are using less energy, and a computer monitor uses 8x less power than my projector.

As a big fan of xbox for many years, love Halo (the first 3) they can stick their 4teraflops where they know, I could build a much more powerful PC for 500.

And if many more xbox gamers have the same idea, then xbox will fail really hard. I've been saying this for a while but Microsoft big mistake was to put all exclusives on PC.

So yeah back to the topic, you said this wasn't for PC gamers, I say this is for people who game on console but will start thinking of moving on due to the lack of power on console.



victor83fernandes said:

There is no way this is true, like at all

1 - There is no reason for a 300 dollar price point, consumers are more than willing to pay minimum 400 for next gen

2 - 4 Teraflops Is way below the current generation xbox X, even below the ps4 pro, that wont happen

3 - Microsoft will not risk the bad marketing and the jokes again this generation, launching a new gen console weaker than the current gen

4 - Microsoft will not risk launching a base console way weaker than ps5 base console, they cant afford it as they don't have the exclusives to swing them, unless they are trying for a reason to get out of the console market, possible

5 - If this is true then Ill definitely wait a couple years before I buy into Xbox again, because the future is too uncertain, unlike the ps5 which is guarantee huge success and many exclusives for at least 7 years.

1: I would much rather pay $300 than $400 for the same product.

2: Teraflops is not the be all end all for GPUs. There is a lot of misconception from this. You can't use Teraflops to compare GPUs from different architectures. This has been proven time and time again. 

3: It's not bad marketing to offer options. Also once again you're using Teraflops to compare power which you can't do.

4: Dude, lauching a system cheaper than the competition can swing people to pick up that system. You don't need exclusives to sell a system. Does it matter if their "base" console is weaker than the PS5 when they will have a more powerful option in the Series X?

5: PS5 isn't guaranteed anything. We know shit about it. You claim many exclusives but with each passing generation there are less and less exclusives for each system. With rumors of HZD going to PC and other Sony games going/went to PC we will most likely see more of their games to go PC.