Sony and Playstation are doomed now so that in the future, when there fortunes reverse, it can be based on being lucky due to...(insert reasons here)

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the games that the console has and its price. That is a little more or less powerful, it really won't make a difference.

As long as the price is not excessive and they keep taking out their exclusives at a good pace, they will be fine.

As a Nintendo fan I'm insulted by all y'all saying Sony/Ps5 doomed. WE and WE ALONE are entitled to being doomed as a community (Nintendo). None of the rest of you (Sony, MS, Google, Apple) are ever allowed to be doomed. If you want you can pick another word.

Please understand...

I never said they should divulge all the information...they've given out a decent amount of information already. I should have specified, the wait and see approach for pricing. I'm a huge Nintendo fan, I'm not pissed that they haven't shown a direct. The information will be given out when ready, but in terms of back door hearings of Sony waiting to see what MS does in terms of pricing, and that behavior is in Sony's blood at this point starting with PS1, that tidbit is confusing.

Edit: Nevermind, answered my own question. I guess Sony doesn't want to PS3 themselves and hemorrhage billions this time around and get bold with their pricing. Makes sense. 

When your logo reveal, generates alot more buzz, than a actual console unveiling from the competitor.
People are too worried, about sony not announceing things just because xbox resently has.

Sony like Nintendo and Microsoft has a fan base that will buy the system no matter what. Sony's fan base is rather large compare to the others, and even if it is under powered its not going to lose this generation of consoles. Microsoft while they have a hardcore fan base will never amount to anything in Japan, and will have to sell their console to someone that doesn't care for shooters and racers such as Halo, and Forza. Xbox One was the first Microsoft console I bought, got it really cheap to play Rare Replay, and it is currently not hooked up to a TV in my house. I have no intentions of buying the X at this point, and it will take a lot of exclusive games that interest me to get me to buy one. Do I want PS5 information, of course I do, but it really doesn't matter I will be getting one.

It's still an issue. I'm not a fan of creators being castrated.

It did a number on independent studios as well.

I am a Playstation guy, always have been, but sometimes they need a slap.

Well, I used OAG in the politics discussion where, as usual, they nitpicked one dodgy article and spent two pages ragging on it. It was the "Get Woke, Go Broke" list, I believe. OAG is/was trash, but it's always interesting to read different points of view.

You should read up on Japan's view on censorship. Japanese players saying that Sony has become "America's dog" and that.

Edit: And, as I said, it did a number on smaller companies.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/10/japanese_developer_sheds_more_light_on_sony_censorship_scenario

*then

PS5 could be underpowered, but it wouldn't matter because it would still have a far better library than Series X. PS4 has something like 25% more well reviewed AAA games than XB1. MS cares very little about having quality exclusives, or Japanese games so this is unlikely to change next gen. 

Price and library win console wars, not graphics. That's always been the case. 

Have a look at the Tweets in this thread. Sony America taking it upon themselves to decide what Japan does and doesn't get. You don't see a problem with that?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-apparently-forcing-japanese-only-games-to-go-under-english-inspections.77364/

One site may be bad, but what about Push Square? Or any other site that covers Sony's censorship policies?

Do a quick Google search. This shit isn't popular.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-cracks-down-on-sexually-explicit-content-in-games-11555427944