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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 1 February 2020

DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
aris4me said:
PS4 is really the poor pc setup for European, this is what people see :p Cmon parents buy it for their children to play FIFA , PES, COD and GTA. This is the machine what is for! There is no quality and fun gaming in the afore mentioned games! Switch does great and some people cannot overcome it!

Yes we all know, there is no quality game available on PS4. People bought over 100M of it out of masochism.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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aris4me on 06 February 2020

I speak for a great majority that buy ps4 just to play the aforementioned games? Do you doubt it? I work in the retail; all they ask is FIFA, COD, GTA, Fortnite! This is why a great number of people bought ps4



DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
aris4me said:
I speak for a great majority that buy ps4 just to play the aforementioned games? Do you doubt it? I work in the retail; all they ask is FIFA, COD, GTA, Fortnite! This is why a great number of people bought ps4

The collective of anedota isn't statistic.

Look at the number of SW sold on Europe and you'll see that isn't the only games.

And those that buy those titles will totally disagree with you that these titles are trash.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
Mar1217 said:

DonFerrari said:

Yes we all know, there is no quality game available on PS4. People bought over 100M of it out of masochism.

The only deserving of such a qualification would be Stadia buyers at this point :P

Won't laugh at them, because that is a sad situation, but most probably were just poorly informed.

Skepticism is a good policy.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
trunkswd said:
DonFerrari said:

Won't laugh at them, because that is a sad situation, but most probably were just poorly informed.

Skepticism is a good policy.

Stadia is a good concept executed poorly. Too expensive and a lack of games. 

I got red herrings since the announcement.

But it can still be improved and become good as Xcloud and PSNow probably want to be when it become more mainstream. That was the idea since at least Gaikai.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
trunkswd said:
DonFerrari said:

I got red herrings since the announcement.

But it can still be improved and become good as Xcloud and PSNow probably want to be when it become more mainstream. That was the idea since at least Gaikai.

Video game streaming services are still in their infancy. Give it a few years and we shall see how well it is doing. 

What I don't like about it is that they are focused on GAAS and episodic never ending games.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
trunkswd said:
DonFerrari said:

What I don't like about it is that they are focused on GAAS and episodic never ending games.

I prefer Game Pass and having access to over 200 games. Personally, I prefer single player driven games and not multiplayer focused games. 

Yep gamepass is a good idea, but also with the potential to turn more games to GAAS with the passage of time, I dread on thinking about it.

Let's see what MS is cooking for next gen and how Sony and 3rd parties will react based on the success of game pass.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Bofferbrauer2 on 06 February 2020

Switch is still climbing

PS4 and XBO down quite a bit already compared to last year, and the difference should only grow from here.



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

curl-6 on 06 February 2020

GaaS is fucking poison. It's all about bleeding the consumer dry by gating more and more content behind paywalls and turning what should've just been a great full price experience into a tortured and diced up exercise in psychological extortion.



Tifabestwaifu on 07 February 2020
aris4me said:
Cmon parents buy it for their children to play FIFA , PES, COD and GTA. This is the machine what is for! There is no quality and fun gaming in the afore mentioned games! Switch does great and some people cannot overcome it!

GTA V tops 120 million. Many people including myself love this game. Stop being jaleous and salty