Forums - Sony Discussion - PS5 Price Will Likely Be Determined by Xbox Series X Price

sales2099 said:
HollyGamer said:

Even Knack is much better than all those title you have mentioned

 

Careful, your fanboy is showing. It’s unbecoming to compare a mediocre game to ones that aren’t out yet. You deflected the actual point instead of taking the L. Until Sony announces something other then a font, Xbox has more new IPs and games. My the times are starting to change 

I am sorry if speak about reality , reality is harsh. But i just i want give you a hint that, Xbox have not yet prove anything nor they made a change except some hope and dream. You can argue Xbox has great games if the games already came out and has a lot of sales, high meta critique and can compete directly with Playstation. Even Phil Spencer dont want to compete with Playstation and Nintendo and choose to compete the nonexistent Google and Amazon. 



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Nu-13 said:

The hell did I just read? And what's HS?

I meant HW of course. My point is that all - digital and stuff is not turning out to be true so far.



KingofTrolls said:
Nu-13 said:

The hell did I just read? And what's HS?

I meant HW of course. My point is that all - digital and stuff is not turning out to be true so far.

Hardware prices didn't skyrocket. The ones that did (ps3, xb1),failed.



sales2099 said:
HollyGamer said:

Even Knack is much better than all those title you have mentioned

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Careful, your fanboy is showing. It’s unbecoming to compare a mediocre game to ones that aren’t out yet. You deflected the actual point instead of taking the L. Until Sony announces something other then a font, Xbox has more new IPs and games. My the times are starting to change 

Both of y'all's posts cross a line. My suggestion is to move on before things escalate and we have to do the same.

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Leynos said:
I hope PS5 is $400

That is impossible, Sony wont be taking losses on sales, and ps5 will come with at least 500SSD, that alone costs like 100 dollars. Even with the cheapest plastics for the chassis, ps5 could never be 400 dollars, 450 will be minimum. And if rumours are right about ps1, ps2 and ps3 compatibility then even more because the ps3 chip is still not cheap.

I'm willing to bet with anyone minimum 450dollars, most likely 499dollars with 500gb SSD and 550dollars with 1TB SSD



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HollyGamer said:

"Totoki implies that Sony is waiting to see what the price of the Xbox Series X will be before putting a price on the PS5, so as to be competitive"

He implied absolutely nothing like that.

I don't know where you get these weird ideas from, but you are completely wrong.

Stuff like this is basically set by putting a money limit on the key components. In our case, the SoC and memory). A time goes on, reconsideration of all kind of factors are taken into account (keeping the set price within +/- 10%). These "minor" factors include about 5492645 things, absolutely none of which include how or when any competitors announce a price. This is serious money that has to be accounted for- right at the start.

I highly doubt Sony is planning to loose significant amounts of money on the PS5 hardware. We can pretty much guesstimate that MS isn't shy of doing it (after all, they have been throwing money down the hardware pit on the X1 for years like there is no tomorrow), but to each his own.



AlbiNecroxz said:
And what if Xbox Series X price will be determined by PS5 price? We're gonna in a loop lol

The big difference is Microsoft can and will take losses on sales, Sony cant afford to do that, at best they would sell it without profits, that's the best they would do and that means minimum 450dollars.

Microsoft could do an underpowered series X for 400dollars, taking a loss on each sale, and a more powerful console for 450 taking a loss on each sale, people have to realize these consoles will be way more powerful than an xbox X, also the SSD increases the cost substantially, 1TB SSD is not cheap at all.



drkohler said:
HollyGamer said:

"Totoki implies that Sony is waiting to see what the price of the Xbox Series X will be before putting a price on the PS5, so as to be competitive"

He implied absolutely nothing like that.

I don't know where you get these weird ideas from, but you are completely wrong.

Stuff like this is basically set by putting a money limit on the key components. In our case, the SoC and memory). A time goes on, reconsideration of all kind of factors are taken into account (keeping the set price within +/- 10%). These "minor" factors include about 5492645 things, absolutely none of which include how or when any competitors announce a price. This is serious money that has to be accounted for- right at the start.

I highly doubt Sony is planning to loose significant amounts of money on the PS5 hardware. We can pretty much guesstimate that MS isn't shy of doing it (after all, they have been throwing money down the hardware pit on the X1 for years like there is no tomorrow), but to each his own.

Don't blame me, i just the messenger . I just opening some discussion . Feel free to give some comment to IGN 



Its obvious. Probably waiting on Lockhart aswell.



method114 said:
funkateer2 said:
Rumors are that while MS will have the GPU TF benefit, Sony's console will have a faster and larger SSD and faster RAM. How that will work out exactly, I'm not sure, but raw TF numbers are becoming less significant.
I'm expecting that MS Series X will be mildly more expensive than PS5, while MS Series S (or whatever the cheap option will be called) will be mildly cheaper. MS seems rather conservative by not wanting to break compatibility with even the launch X1, while Sony seems to be a bit more daring by not guaranteeing that next gen games will be playable on PS4 models.

I'm really skeptical about the BC topic. MS says it's going to be there and Sony seems hesitant but they did say all their first party titles would be. It seems like Sony doesn't want to say it will be 100% BC because they could end up being responsible for patching various games that don't work out of the box. It makes me wonder if MS is just claiming 100% BC but can't really do that because they would have to play every single game ever released on the X1 and verify it works. MS is well known for saying things that are hyperbole or just flat out wrong. 

The difference is, xbox is easier to emulate, the ps3 and ps2 had very different chips, so unless the ps5 comes with a ps3 chip (extra manufacturing cost) then it wont play the ps2 and ps3 discs at all, and I fully believe the emulation will continue to be the PS Now which makes profits for Sony, PS5 will only play ps4 discs that's my bet. There's no way that sony would take the time, effort and cost of patching thousands of games, even Microsoft took years to patch hundreds of 360 games, at least Microsoft already have those patched.

Me personally Im happy with only ps4 emulation, to be honest ps2 and ps3 graphics are already very dated, and will become more so very soon, besides, theres many new good games to play, no way I'd go back, in fact Im happier if they would continue remasters, I'd rather pay for much better improved graphics and performance, and to be honest most great games were already remastered from generation 6 - Last of us, God of war 3, Uncharted collection, Bioshock collection, Batman games. In my opinion from that generation we just needed a metal gear 4 remaster, and a Mass effect trilogy remaster, but I'd be happier with a mass effect reboot instead.