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SanAndreasX said:
Azzanation said:

It happening doesn't make it right. Its Capcon, its Street Fighter, it never needed funding. 

W101 doesn't need a kickstarter for a port. 

Games don't get made unless the developers have the money to make them. Any potential success SFV had would have been meaningless until Capcom had the money to make the game in the first place.  Capcom didn't have enough money to make SFV and pay its employees and keep the lights on. Sony stepped in and bankrolled SFV with the obvious expectation that it would not show up on Xbox One, Wii U, or Switch, at least until x number of years had passed.

I doubt that Platinum similarly has the money to make W101 on its own. That said, that point is moot. Until Nintendo relinquishes its rights to W101, it ain't happening.

You know there is a difference between being in bad finances and not having money to make new a title. Where exactly did you get this information that capcom could literally not afford to make new SFV game? 


IF (strong emphasis on if) this was true Capcom could definitely take out a loan to finance a new safe investment (one of their biggest IPs, SFIV sold 5m the previous gen), but I would at least understand them looking for other investment instead of a riskier loan. 



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animegaming said:
Azzanation said:

Where are these facts you speak of? I don't want to hear they were low on funds without actually knowing what that means.. Nintendo were also in a space where they were struggling and they still managed to fund there own stuff to get back on there feat. Sorry I don't just believe they were too low on funds to fund one of there major IPs that wouldn't have taken a lot of funds to create in the first place. Anyone can cry poor to defend the act of money hatting. 

Can I argue that Crystal Dynamics timed exclusive with the X1 was also a troubled studio? No I wont use that card because I simply don't believe it. Capcom would have made SFV regardless, they just did it quicker because a pay check came there way.

https://www.dualshockers.com/capcom-only-has-152-in-their-bank-account-plans-to-invest-more-into-the-dlc-market/

Only 152m in their bank account and they can't afford to make Street Fighter V? Lol, I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Street Fighter is literally the safest title they released the whole gen sans Monster Hunter. They could absolutely finance it, its not some crazy AAA new IP which cost 60m and 4 years of production. Especially over whatever else was in the pipeline which was seemingly console exclusive (Dead Rising-MS), Deep Down (Sony).

They were playing it safe, which is not a crime but lets not say they couldn't afford to make SFV



I have no issue with Platinum kickstarting a port of a game though. Its a low selling title and they are a small company. I will wait to see the details

Edit: Just found out about the tencent investment and yeah, I'm more sketptical now. They should really finance it themselves, especially since its only a port. 

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animegaming said:
Azzanation said:

Where are these facts you speak of? I don't want to hear they were low on funds without actually knowing what that means.. Nintendo were also in a space where they were struggling and they still managed to fund there own stuff to get back on there feat. Sorry I don't just believe they were too low on funds to fund one of there major IPs that wouldn't have taken a lot of funds to create in the first place. Anyone can cry poor to defend the act of money hatting. 

Can I argue that Crystal Dynamics timed exclusive with the X1 was also a troubled studio? No I wont use that card because I simply don't believe it. Capcom would have made SFV regardless, they just did it quicker because a pay check came there way.

https://www.dualshockers.com/capcom-only-has-152-in-their-bank-account-plans-to-invest-more-into-the-dlc-market/

$152m in there bank accounts.. how much do you think SF costs to make? They could have made 4 Street Fighter games with that money with no return and that's if they decided to invest extremly heavy into the IP.

SFV does not look like a $40m title, just saying.



Otter said:
animegaming said:

https://www.dualshockers.com/capcom-only-has-152-in-their-bank-account-plans-to-invest-more-into-the-dlc-market/

Only 152m in their bank account and they can't afford to make Street Fighter V? Lol, I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Street Fighter is literally the safest title they released the whole gen sans Monster Hunter. They could absolutely finance it, its not some crazy AAA new IP which cost 60m and 4 years of production. Especially over whatever else was in the pipeline which was seemingly console exclusive (Dead Rising-MS), Deep Down (Sony).

They were playing it safe, which is not a crime but lets not say they couldn't afford to make SFV

You do realize that a company that has thousands of employees from all over the world, only having 152 million dollars is kind dire?

Hell the launch state of SFV is kind of proof that the game must have had a pretty low budget due to Capcom's financial state at the time.

Also why do you think early in this gen they kept made mostly exclusives and remasters? Because with a 152 million dollars that can only make at most a few AAA games, they had to take some paychecks from MS and Sony to make some actual new games.



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Not to mention a whole company to run and overhead. Even with Sony funding. SFV launched in a sorry state and sold below expectations the first year or two.



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animegaming said:
Otter said:

Only 152m in their bank account and they can't afford to make Street Fighter V? Lol, I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Street Fighter is literally the safest title they released the whole gen sans Monster Hunter. They could absolutely finance it, its not some crazy AAA new IP which cost 60m and 4 years of production. Especially over whatever else was in the pipeline which was seemingly console exclusive (Dead Rising-MS), Deep Down (Sony).

They were playing it safe, which is not a crime but lets not say they couldn't afford to make SFV

You do realize that a company that has thousands of employees from all over the world, only having 152 million dollars is kind dire?

Hell the launch state of SFV is kind of proof that the game must have had a pretty low budget due to Capcom's financial state at the time.

Also why do you think early in this gen they kept made mostly exclusives and remasters? Because with a 152 million dollars that can only make at most a few AAA games, they had to take some paychecks from MS and Sony to make some actual new games.

You haven't countered my point.

And to contextualise everything, capcom would have made around 40m-60m in the first 2 days of Monster Hunter 4's Ultimate's release, assuming they pocket 30-50% of its retail value. Again, Its not to say Capcom was in a great Financial situation, its to say they could absolutely finance Street Fighter V by themselves. whereas you are saying they literally couldn't afford its production cost. 



Otter said:

I have no issue with Platinum kickstarting a port of a game though. Its a low selling title and they are a small company. I will wait to see the details

Edit: Just found out about the tencent investment and yeah, I'm more sketptical now. They should really finance it themselves, especially since its only a port. 

Depends how much Tencent, whether the investment was aimed at a particular title or titles, and how much it cost to get w101.



Hynad said:
Dulfite said:

You win the internet for the day!

#artsylesovergraphics

Good thing PS4 games often have both style and graphics.

What an ignorant comment.

Not nearly as much art style differences and colors as Nintendo games. Sony games are usually just realistic art styles rather than imaginative. And I'm aware there are exceptions, I'm talking about most of their big games.



Might just be a port of the game to the Switch. I mean the Switch is very prominent in the picture. The PS4 controller is kinda tucked on the side of the screen in the backround. Might just be something he had on his desk. I just never heard a single Sony fan ask for this game on the PS4 like some did with Bayonetta 2. And how much would someone used to the PS4 even pay for this game? 20 bucks at most I would say. They even bundled Bayonetta and Vanquish together with a steelbook and that's not even a full price release. Also is the calendar supposed to refer to Kickstarter?