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Pemalite said:
Nu-13 said:

You're supposed to elaborate. So what if it doesn't have an exclusive MK?

Well... I don't have to elaborate.
But to me it seems people are happy for Nintendo not to invest in a big follow up title for their current console.

Find it odd how more games is seen as a bad thing in some instances.

zorg1000 said:

It's also the first console to get a port of a Mario Kart game.

True. But the Switch seems to get allot of WiiU ports anyway... Mario Kart, Breath of the Wild, Smash Brothers, Super Mario Brothers U, Tropical Freeze... I think it's Nintendo's attempt on getting a return on their game development investments from that failed console.

Not just that but they didnt reach their full potential so for the vast majority of Switch owners these arent simply ports but brand new games.



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zorg1000 said:
Pemalite said:

Well... I don't have to elaborate.
But to me it seems people are happy for Nintendo not to invest in a big follow up title for their current console.

Find it odd how more games is seen as a bad thing in some instances.

True. But the Switch seems to get allot of WiiU ports anyway... Mario Kart, Breath of the Wild, Smash Brothers, Super Mario Brothers U, Tropical Freeze... I think it's Nintendo's attempt on getting a return on their game development investments from that failed console.

Not just that but they didnt reach their full potential so for the vast majority of Switch owners these arent simply ports but brand new games.

Hopefully a majority of Switch owners think of The Wonderful 101 as a brand new game.



CaptainExplosion said:
peachbuggy said:
Didn't the leak also say it was "Something that wouldn't be expected"? Could that mean it's maybe a sequel to diddy kong racing?

I'm not holding my breath. -_-

Well I hope for your sake it is then. If you hold your breath for too long you may explode!



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peachbuggy said:
CaptainExplosion said:

I'm not holding my breath. -_-

Well I hope for your sake it is then. If you hold your breath for too long you may explode!

I'm just used to Nintendo not bringing back what I want the most. *crying over the graves of F-Zero and Donkey Kong Country*



Nu-13 said:
Pemalite said:

Because I am pretty sure allot of those "sales" are coming from free Console Bundles.

And who is to say they wouldn't sell 10's of millions of more copies of Mario Kart?

Or they can release a Mario Kart 10 for the next console?

What, the maybe 1m units they had for each blackfriday? Not even 10% of total sales and not relevant anyway. This is the best selling switch tittle. Bundling it doesn't take any merit from it's sales.

Still being bundled heavily in various regions.

Australia for example.
https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/nintendo-switch/808255-nintendo-switch-neon-console-1-game

Some sellers on the Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-Console-Mario-Kart-Deluxe/dp/B07JJLLFXJ

Walmart in the USA has a heap of bundles too.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wheel-Set-Nintendo-Mario-Case-Neon-Super-Disc-Kart-Deluxe-Console-an-Pair-Blue-Bundle-Red-Travel-Pink-Game-Switch-Extra-8-2-Joy-Con-Joy-Con-Green/288167183

But okay.

I am also not saying it's not a good seller, far from it.

zorg1000 said:

Not just that but they didnt reach their full potential so for the vast majority of Switch owners these arent simply ports but brand new games.

Nah. They are ports. And they don't leverage the Switch's hardware capabilities to the fullest extent... Which is the biggest reason to release a Mario Kart 9. - I couldn't care if Nintendo is still selling copies, that's not my problem.

The fact a majority of people may not have played these ports on the WiiU, doesn't mean they are new titles or new gaming experiences, that's just a fallacy.



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Pemalite said:
Nu-13 said:

What, the maybe 1m units they had for each blackfriday? Not even 10% of total sales and not relevant anyway. This is the best selling switch tittle. Bundling it doesn't take any merit from it's sales.

Still being bundled heavily in various regions.

Australia for example.
https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/nintendo-switch/808255-nintendo-switch-neon-console-1-game

Some sellers on the Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-Console-Mario-Kart-Deluxe/dp/B07JJLLFXJ

Walmart in the USA has a heap of bundles too.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wheel-Set-Nintendo-Mario-Case-Neon-Super-Disc-Kart-Deluxe-Console-an-Pair-Blue-Bundle-Red-Travel-Pink-Game-Switch-Extra-8-2-Joy-Con-Joy-Con-Green/288167183

But okay.

I am also not saying it's not a good seller, far from it.

zorg1000 said:

Not just that but they didnt reach their full potential so for the vast majority of Switch owners these arent simply ports but brand new games.

Nah. They are ports. And they don't leverage the Switch's hardware capabilities to the fullest extent... Which is the biggest reason to release a Mario Kart 9. - I couldn't care if Nintendo is still selling copies, that's not my problem.

The fact a majority of people may not have played these ports on the WiiU, doesn't mean they are new titles or new gaming experiences, that's just a fallacy.

Non official "bundles" that aren't cheaper than console + game.



Nu-13 said:
Pemalite said:

Still being bundled heavily in various regions.

Australia for example.
https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/nintendo-switch/808255-nintendo-switch-neon-console-1-game

Some sellers on the Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-Console-Mario-Kart-Deluxe/dp/B07JJLLFXJ

Walmart in the USA has a heap of bundles too.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wheel-Set-Nintendo-Mario-Case-Neon-Super-Disc-Kart-Deluxe-Console-an-Pair-Blue-Bundle-Red-Travel-Pink-Game-Switch-Extra-8-2-Joy-Con-Joy-Con-Green/288167183

But okay.

I am also not saying it's not a good seller, far from it.

Nah. They are ports. And they don't leverage the Switch's hardware capabilities to the fullest extent... Which is the biggest reason to release a Mario Kart 9. - I couldn't care if Nintendo is still selling copies, that's not my problem.

The fact a majority of people may not have played these ports on the WiiU, doesn't mean they are new titles or new gaming experiences, that's just a fallacy.

Non official "bundles" that aren't cheaper than console + game.

Bundle is a bundle. I couldn't care if they are official or not. - Consumers aren't going to give a shit.
All comes down to price and included value additions.



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Pemalite said:
Nu-13 said:

Non official "bundles" that aren't cheaper than console + game.

Bundle is a bundle. I couldn't care if they are official or not. - Consumers aren't going to give a shit.
All comes down to price and included value additions.

Then there's no point in having this conversation.



Pemalite said:
Nu-13 said:

What, the maybe 1m units they had for each blackfriday? Not even 10% of total sales and not relevant anyway. This is the best selling switch tittle. Bundling it doesn't take any merit from it's sales.

Still being bundled heavily in various regions.

Australia for example.
https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/nintendo-switch/808255-nintendo-switch-neon-console-1-game

Some sellers on the Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-Console-Mario-Kart-Deluxe/dp/B07JJLLFXJ

Walmart in the USA has a heap of bundles too.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wheel-Set-Nintendo-Mario-Case-Neon-Super-Disc-Kart-Deluxe-Console-an-Pair-Blue-Bundle-Red-Travel-Pink-Game-Switch-Extra-8-2-Joy-Con-Joy-Con-Green/288167183

But okay.

I am also not saying it's not a good seller, far from it.

zorg1000 said:

Not just that but they didnt reach their full potential so for the vast majority of Switch owners these arent simply ports but brand new games.

Nah. They are ports. And they don't leverage the Switch's hardware capabilities to the fullest extent... Which is the biggest reason to release a Mario Kart 9. - I couldn't care if Nintendo is still selling copies, that's not my problem.

The fact a majority of people may not have played these ports on the WiiU, doesn't mean they are new titles or new gaming experiences, that's just a fallacy.

Australia makes up maybe a few percent of total sales and the walmart bundle you linked is over $500. MK8 bundles make up a very small amount of its sales, it's around ~23 million shipped and would at worst be like ~20 million without bundles.

Of course they arent new titles, I didn't say they were, I'm saying to the vast majority of people that does not matter because barely anyone owned a Wii U. They are highly desirable games that were stuck on a highly undesirable console and are selling as if they were new titles.



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zorg1000 said:

Australia makes up maybe a few percent of total sales and the walmart bundle you linked is over $500. MK8 bundles make up a very small amount of its sales, it's around ~23 million shipped and would at worst be like ~20 million without bundles.

Hence why I said "Bundle heavily in various regions".  - They were examples.

The USA bundle includes more than just the game, hence it's price, it includes a steering wheel, carry case, extra Joycons.
But again... It was an example... And you are missing the point of why I provided such an example.

Either way. Here is another at a lower price:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nintendo-Switch-Gaming-Console-Neon-Blue-and-Neon-Red-Joy-Con-Bundle-with-Mario-Kart-Deluxe-8/333306670

Or hows about Target USA?
https://www.target.com/p/nintendo-switch-mario-kart-8-deluxe-bundle-with-neon-blue-and-neon-red-joy-con/-/A-78178557

JFC.

Here is another bundle, this time the UK.
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/gaming/gaming-consoles/nintendo-switch-lite-mario-kart-8-deluxe-bundle-turquoise-10198471-pdt.html

Need me to continue? Those are all sales, they all add up. - It's still not going to account for 10's of millions of sales as the game has been on the market since 2014 and been selling since then, but it all still adds up.
Obviously Nintendo are at the point where they are happy to give the game away with a console.

zorg1000 said:

Of course they arent new titles, I didn't say they were, I'm saying to the vast majority of people that does not matter because barely anyone owned a Wii U. They are highly desirable games that were stuck on a highly undesirable console and are selling as if they were new titles.

The amount of people who owned a Wii U is irrelevant.
Doesn't change the fact they are ports of old games, Nintendo is just making money with minimal effort. (And so they should if they can profit from it.)

But I would argue it's not pro-consumer when a game built from the ground up to take full advantage of the Switch's hardware could give us a brand new experience.



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