I imagine a couple threads where people use the terms "tranny", "alphabet people", "woman that somehow in an apocalyptic world have a body of an men on steroids", "very male female",  and incessant complaining about how a woman looks is probably not a healthy space for the community.

Not sure exactly the comments in question, but from my general experience I'd say that objecting to "social politics" being injected into games is pretty much a thinly veiled way to say you don't like the group in question.

The general test is just to replace gay/trans/whatever with black and see if it would be racist, or in the case of a queer relationships, interracial relationships.

If people complained that the inclusion of an interracial relationship was "pushing a social agenda" they would be justifiably called out for being racist.  Same should be true for those objecting to a gay/trans relationship.

There's really no reason to complain about "social politics" spreading the idea that lbgt people exist and should be accepted unless you believe they shouldn't be accepted... which is certainly homo/trans phobic.

Ok i don't use any of those words, but just because a couple of people used terms as "tranny" doesn't mean the whole thread or site is filled with homophobes or people against LGBT.

"very male female" is not in anyway derogatory, it's an observation that would only offend those sensitive on an extreme level.

Should a thread be locked for questioning a certain videogame with political undertones which weren't neccessary in the first place? But that's exactly what the mods are doing.

Oh and nice try trying to expose me but like i said im barely on this site because of things like this anymore so.

Explain to me why including positive portrayal of trans or queer people for instance would be "unnecessary political undertones", while positive portrayals of cis-gendered heterosexuals would not be?

The way I see it, it's a political message either way.  The only difference is how the complainer feels about the group of people or type of relationship being portrayed.

People are ""safe"" here but don't expect continuous, wholesome conversations for more than 15 posts consecutively. People are always going to derail in one way or another the primary intention of this kind of threads.

Yeah i agree and i think most people don't have a problem with who you are and expressing your sexuality, i sure don't.

I agree that if you don't like the direction the game is taking you dont have to buy it, but that's why fanbases exist, they support developers with what they create and pay big money for it. But not when the developers add a certain "message" in to the game that really makes the fanbase feel attacked and divided, in favor of others when none of that is really necessary. It creates an Us vs. Them kind of thing and creates this whole toxic athmosphere for both sides when this is really just a videogame were talking about we're all supposed to have fun playing.

I don't think i need to explain this to you if you'd actually played the first game. Ellie was shown to have romantic feelings for another girl in the DLC which nobody had a problem with, in fact, most accepted or embraced it.

But her sexuality is not what the whole game was about nor even heterosexual relationships, it was about Joel and Ellie trying to survive this zombie apocalypse and building up this father daughter relationship together. 

From the next game's trailers, leaks, interviews and even response after the leaks it seems this whole sexuality thing is a major point of the whole game, ditching old characters in favor of this political acceptance message. Cause you see, some people here like to make it a "Heterosexual vs Gays" thing but it's not about that at all, it's that the game is being heavily directed in a way most fans didn't expect it to go in and is really not what the original game is known for.

That's the problem right there, for some people LGBTQ+ people being "present" in a game is considered an attack (or an agenda) and in those cases I'd argue they are simply homophobic.

This thread is an interesting reading that somehow only confirm my opinions on the subject. Now back to lurkin...

I haven't actually played the game, so my comments are based in the general discussions I've seen around this issue.  That being said I believe Ellie was 14 or so in the game?  And this game she's a young adult?  It makes sense that sexuality is going to be a bigger part of her life at this point.  Just like romantic (yet strangely platonic) relationships became much more prevalent in the Harry Potter books as the characters aged. 

Disregarding that, do you honestly think the backlash would be the same if this was a heterosexual relationship?  Because I've seen similar objections tons of times in regards to gay, trans characters, in all sorts of circumstances, yet not once have I heard anyone accused of pushing a heterosexual acceptance agenda.