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crissindahouse said:

I wonder why he believes that 40-70% of the world population will get it within one year. Right now it doesn't seem like this will happen. Chinese numbers don't climb that fast anymore. You have some thousand new cases per day but that was the same a week or two ago.

And I also can't believe this will happen in Northern America, Europe, Australia and so on. I guess it could spread super fast in as example many African or other very poor countries, though (if it survives the temperatures there)

The flu doesn't spread in first world countries? The primary source for flu etc to spread are schools. Getting kids has been an enormous stress on my wife's immune system from the moment they went to school. Avoid people with kids!



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SvennoJ said:

We have kids (8 and 10) that go to school. If it spreads it will be inevitable :( Maybe we get lucky and it comes through during Summer holidays :/ Hopefully it can simply be contained, or only a mild form might spread.

ouch that is troublesome, hopefully schools will be closed immediately once it spreads to your area and you and your family can stay safe from it atleast long enough for effective treatment and/or vaccines to be developed

personally I don't have high hopes for it to be contained at this point, but mass spread might be delayed by a few years by the actions by govs around the world 



SvennoJ said:
crissindahouse said:

I wonder why he believes that 40-70% of the world population will get it within one year. Right now it doesn't seem like this will happen. Chinese numbers don't climb that fast anymore. You have some thousand new cases per day but that was the same a week or two ago.

And I also can't believe this will happen in Northern America, Europe, Australia and so on. I guess it could spread super fast in as example many African or other very poor countries, though (if it survives the temperatures there)

The flu doesn't spread in first world countries? The primary source for flu etc to spread are schools. Getting kids has been an enormous stress on my wife's immune system from the moment they went to school. Avoid people with kids!

It does but what I meant is that we know much faster about if someone has the virus in better developed countries and we have probably much better measurements against it. If some people in Kinshasa (or smaller less developed towns) will be infected I'm not sure if it will be even recognized before you already have hundreds of infected who will infect thousands more before they will be in quarantine. 

I just don't see half of Europe, China or USA/Canada to be infected by it. I mean, right now it does look as if the number of new infections per day in China doesn't increase much anymore but it needs to be much worse to reach 50% of the population. 



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I still believe this virus is hitting Asians, in particular Chinese much harder than any other race of people. 90% of the infected have fever and 5% die which is way beyond what we see outside of China / ethnic Chinese people.

Results: 9 studies were included in Meta-analysis, including a total of 50404 patients with 2019-nCoV infection... the incidence of fever is 90.9% , the incidence of cough is 70.8%, and the incidence of muscle soreness or fatigue is 41%. The incidence of acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) was 14.8%, the incidence of abnormal chest CT was 95.6%, the proportion of severe cases in all infected cases was 21.3%, and the mortality rate of patients with 2019-nCoV infection was 4.8%.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.18.20024539v1



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crissindahouse said:
SvennoJ said:

The flu doesn't spread in first world countries? The primary source for flu etc to spread are schools. Getting kids has been an enormous stress on my wife's immune system from the moment they went to school. Avoid people with kids!

It does but what I meant is that we know much faster about if someone has the virus in better developed countries and we have probably much better measurements against it. If some people in Kinshasa (or smaller less developed towns) will be infected I'm not sure if it will be even recognized before you already have hundreds of infected who will infect thousands more before they will be in quarantine. 

I just don't see half of Europe, China or USA/Canada to be infected by it. I mean, right now it does look as if the number of new infections per day in China doesn't increase much anymore but it needs to be much worse to reach 50% of the population. 

To balance that, first world countries are far more interconnected with 2.7 million daily airline passengers. The WHO doesn't believe it matters
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/who-coronavirus-pandemic-feb-24/

"All countries are vulnerable because all countries have two things. All countries have vulnerable populations, people within, (no matter how developed their economy is) there are many, many older people with underlying conditions who may be negatively impacted if this virus arrives and spreads.

Secondly, many of our health systems even in the most developed countries, in fact, very often in the most developed countries are operating at nearly 100% efficiency or impact all the time. You don’t see many extra beds in hospitals in Europe so the problem for the European countries and other countries in the developed world is that the health systems may come under a lot of extra pressure. We see that with the seasonal influenza every winter. But slowing down the virus, even now slowing down the virus spreading in Europe in order for the flu season to end will free up significant capacity in the health system. Even Slowing down the virus by a month or six week will have a massive positive benefit to the system.


Isolated places will be more safe.



SvennoJ said:
crissindahouse said:

I wonder why he believes that 40-70% of the world population will get it within one year. Right now it doesn't seem like this will happen. Chinese numbers don't climb that fast anymore. You have some thousand new cases per day but that was the same a week or two ago.

And I also can't believe this will happen in Northern America, Europe, Australia and so on. I guess it could spread super fast in as example many African or other very poor countries, though (if it survives the temperatures there)

The flu doesn't spread in first world countries? The primary source for flu etc to spread are schools. Getting kids has been an enormous stress on my wife's immune system from the moment they went to school. Avoid people with kids!

Sleep,healthy eating and maybe look into how you and your wife can have some more time for just the both of you.

My sister her immune system is also a bit messed up because she worries much about her son who is autistic and she constantly needs to micromanage and shedule every small thing she does so sadly that makes her being in panic mode often,sometimes i look after her kid for some time so she and her husband can have some time off and since i'm autistic myself i mostly know what to do to not upset her son.

But yeah taking that edge off for just a bit of time works wonders,what i commented here you will most likely know but typing it just in case.



Immersiveunreality said:

Sleep,healthy eating and maybe look into how you and your wife can have some more time for just the both of you.

My sister her immune system is also a bit messed up because she worries much about her son who is autistic and she constantly needs to micromanage and shedule every small thing she does so sadly that makes her being in panic mode often,sometimes i look after her kid for some time so she and her husband can have some time off and since i'm autistic myself i mostly know what to do to not upset her son.

But yeah taking that edge off for just a bit of time works wonders,what i commented here you will most likely know but typing it just in case.

Thanks :)

Yes indeed, we're working towards those goals. She's cutting down on work (working her own one man business, those bosses are the worst) and trying not to get involved in too much drama anymore. We went through a rough patch last year, a perfect storm of crap all happening close after each other, constant panic mode. The outlook this year is already much better. I'm not updating her on this corona virus either (she knows about it of course and already jokingly mentioned, if I get that as well I'm dead) and we hardly ever watch the news, less stress.

Good on you to help your sister out. I tried the same and it backfired and became the source of a ton of stress. (Her ex is a real piece of work) So now it's better for us to keep our distance. (Not that hard when she lives 6,000 km away)



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"It's not so much a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness

so I think I'm going to start taking this a little more seriously.



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