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You concerned yet?

Yes 74 46.84%
 
No, but I will be followi... 48 30.38%
 
No, its being overblown 36 22.78%
 
Total:158

The situation is also becoming more problematic in Italy; between today and yesterday there have been more than 80 new infected and 2 deaths near Milan and Venice. Fortunately the patient zero was found immediately...

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This looks like something we eventually all have to deal with.



Immersiveunreality said:
This looks like something we eventually all have to deal with.

What's to deal with? You most likely won't catch it, but even if you do, you have roughly a 98% chance of being ok and a 2% chance of dying. I don't understand why such low odds produce such a high media frenzy?

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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Immersiveunreality said:
This looks like something we eventually all have to deal with.

What's to deal with? You most likely won't catch it, but even if you do, you have roughly a 98% chance of being ok and a 2% chance of dying. I don't understand why such low odds produce such a high media frenzy?

What?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

A disease that can potentially kill 230 million people is not worthy of concern?



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Immersiveunreality said:
This looks like something we eventually all have to deal with.

What's to deal with? You most likely won't catch it, but even if you do, you have roughly a 98% chance of being ok and a 2% chance of dying. I don't understand why such low odds produce such a high media frenzy?

Lets take out the 2% death toll which is massive in a global pandemic by the way and just go for the indirect issues you aren't thinking about. The economy for one, if it gets hit hard enough it can cause death tolls of itself, conflicts, famine etc. The 2% is just the catalyst, the greater worry is what follows on from that after fear kicks in. Could well be the worst Global politcal climate since 9/11. 



 

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SvennoJ said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

What's to deal with? You most likely won't catch it, but even if you do, you have roughly a 98% chance of being ok and a 2% chance of dying. I don't understand why such low odds produce such a high media frenzy?

What?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

A disease that can potentially kill 230 million people is not worthy of concern?

230 million people, where does that come from? That's almost 3% of all humans. That implies that no less than 100% of humans get infected. Why would that ever happen? All the diseases that EVER existed never came close to 100% of infection. The closest contestant could be the black plague that ravaged Europe centuries ago, and that one got how far? 20% of the world population? Probably less and that was at a time when there was no communication, no serious medical knowledge, no real warning or prevention, very bad hygiene that would make any infection reign supreme among humans. So from there how can you infer that this Corona-virus will hit 100% of the human population?

I think you guys are falling prey to media sensationalism. It's going to be bad, there will certainly be way more casualties than the current 2500 dead or whatever that number now is, but nothing ANYWHERE near 230 million deaths. I'll bet that there won't even be 230 million infected worldwide, let alone 8 billion. Only way for things to get as bad as you guys fear would be for this thing to mutate into some kind of super virus but I don't know if that is even possible, it's never happened before, why would it happen now?



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Immersiveunreality said:
This looks like something we eventually all have to deal with.

What's to deal with? You most likely won't catch it, but even if you do, you have roughly a 98% chance of being ok and a 2% chance of dying. I don't understand why such low odds produce such a high media frenzy?

Why does everything has to be so egocentric?

I do not wish suffering upon the weakest people in my life that i care about and that is why most are dealing with it if it hits us.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
SvennoJ said:

What?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

A disease that can potentially kill 230 million people is not worthy of concern?

230 million people, where does that come from? That's almost 3% of all humans. That implies that no less than 100% of humans get infected. Why would that ever happen? All the diseases that EVER existed never came close to 100% of infection. The closest contestant could be the black plague that ravaged Europe centuries ago, and that one got how far? 20% of the world population? Probably less and that was at a time when there was no communication, no serious medical knowledge, no real warning or prevention, very bad hygiene that would make any infection reign supreme among humans. So from there how can you infer that this Corona-virus will hit 100% of the human population?

I think you guys are falling prey to media sensationalism. It's going to be bad, there will certainly be way more casualties than the current 2500 dead or whatever that number now is, but nothing ANYWHERE near 230 million deaths. I'll bet that there won't even be 230 million infected worldwide, let alone 8 billion. Only way for things to get as bad as you guys fear would be for this thing to mutate into some kind of super virus but I don't know if that is even possible, it's never happened before, why would it happen now?

Keep in mind it takes a while between being infected and dying from the infection. Due to this, your 2% is simply too low.

If you rather compare the number of deaths vs recoveries, then you'll reach 10%. By that regard, the 230M figure is actually rather conservative



Checking the ratio death/total infected doesn't make sens, as you don't die in 1sec with the virus. The only one most realistic rate that we have is right now 9,8%: you take the ratio between death toll and total closed cases.
I can't believe that even today we see so ignorant reactions...It is over the time of possible over exaggeration by the media.



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CrazyGamer2017 said:
SvennoJ said:

What?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

A disease that can potentially kill 230 million people is not worthy of concern?

230 million people, where does that come from? That's almost 3% of all humans. That implies that no less than 100% of humans get infected. Why would that ever happen? All the diseases that EVER existed never came close to 100% of infection. The closest contestant could be the black plague that ravaged Europe centuries ago, and that one got how far? 20% of the world population? Probably less and that was at a time when there was no communication, no serious medical knowledge, no real warning or prevention, very bad hygiene that would make any infection reign supreme among humans. So from there how can you infer that this Corona-virus will hit 100% of the human population?

I think you guys are falling prey to media sensationalism. It's going to be bad, there will certainly be way more casualties than the current 2500 dead or whatever that number now is, but nothing ANYWHERE near 230 million deaths. I'll bet that there won't even be 230 million infected worldwide, let alone 8 billion. Only way for things to get as bad as you guys fear would be for this thing to mutate into some kind of super virus but I don't know if that is even possible, it's never happened before, why would it happen now?

Simply extrapolating the figures from the facts.

2,470 deaths out of 78,993 confirmed cases = 3.12% death rate or even 9.5% of the closed cases (91.5% recovery rate)
Active cases: 21.8% in serious or critical condition.
2 to 3 newly infected per case despite all the counter measures, and an incubation period of 2 to 14 days makes it highly dangerous.

I haven't read anything about people being immune to the virus, but sure if it only has the capacity to infect half the population, no worries!