Like I said in another thread before, to travel to the US as a Luxembourger, you need a special travel insurance mandated by the Luxembourgish government, because for the healthcare system here, it's cheaper to send you (and you family/co-workers/friends/whatever applies) back to Luxembourg in a special medical plane and get full treatment in Luxembourg is considered cheaper than letting you get treated in the US for the exact same care.

While we're at it, I just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s4Bx7mzNkM

You're not looking at it far enough ahead based on what I said, but either way, how many experts have cried wolf in the past? How many of them paid for their misjudgment by losing their job? How many leaders listened to the wolf cries, making unfortunate poor decisions because of it, and were instantly forgiven because it wasn't really their fault, it was the experts opinion?

So if China was warned and their leadership turned a blind eye, leaving the rest of the planet to deal with this illness as well, because it's said that while Trump and other world leaders didn't turn a blind eye but waited too long, this somehow means it's all Trumps fault? If only someone had been warning America and the world of the many issues China brings to the table and how something needs to be done about it asap. Maybe then this would have been less severe by being less widespread. I wonder if the opposition who seems to think Trump is wrong and that countries should deal even more with China have changed their minds?

USA suspends World Health Organization funding

Expected, today's case reports are the lab results of tests taken on Easter Monday, less tests taken, less results.
Deaths are corrected today already, however those that need postmortem testing will be added later in the week (if tested at all that is)

It's the same every weekend, Monday numbers are still low from Sunday tests taken, Tuesday they go back up. Italy might still be low tomorrow since they report the numbers from a day before, thus their numbers today are lab results from Easter Monday from tests taken on Easter Sunday.

No surprise. As idiotic as Trump is being, and he is being very idiotic to save face because he knows he dropped the ball and made a fool of himself and will likely lose in November as a result. It is important to not forget how badly WHO fucked up too, mainly due to Chinese politics per usual. Had this been handled by experts from the beginning across the globe without the rampant politics this virus would have been curbed long ago. I'm totally in favor of scientific run governments at this point. We can't trust the current idiots.

The WHO was too slow, yet "After finally declaring an emergency on January 30" Italy didn't lock down until March 8th while Wuhan locked down Januari 23rd. The Diamond Princess was declared an Emergency on Februari 4th, plenty evidence the genie was out the bottle, Pandora's box was opened. Princess Cruises confirms that a guest from Hong Kong who traveled for five days on Diamond Princess from Yokohama (Tokyo) on January 20, and disembarked in Hong Kong on January 25, tested positive for coronavirus on February 1, six days after leaving the ship. Italy also confirmed positive tests Januari 31st. That should have set alarm bells off world wide, yet we waited, and waited, and waited some more.

Had we not be so concerned with the economy and keeping the borders open, many many deaths could have been prevented, and the economy would be less fucked now. Slow response all around let this happen. It was clear stuff went very badly in Wuhan, it was clear the virus had traveled outside of Wuhan, yet we waited. This thread started on Januari 23rd, it was no secret shit was hitting the fan.

No answer eh. I'm not surprised, since it would be like asking how many people exactly in total have contracted covid 19? Nobody really knows. All we can do is guess, yet make exaggerated claims based on the absolute worst possible case scenario we can actually prove.

The point is why is it always 100% the leaders fault? Even when the leader does decide to fire somebody for making poor decisions or giving them bad opinions/info, it still somehow always ends up only their fault.

Based on this mindset, I can only assume you believe it's 100% the Japanese leaderships fault that Nagasaki and Hiroshima were nuked? The Americans warned them, and the Japanese leadership didn't do what was necessary to protect their people, so Truman and America are entirely blameless?

As I've stated in the past, I'm not saying that the leadership would be devoid of blame, but that blame get's divvied up, and would start at the source. Meaning China get's the majority of the blame. If you also want to assume everything the experts say is undeniable truth and will certainly happen, just because they were more right than wrong this time around, then good luck with that in the future.

Using this to add to the 'endless' list of negatives as to why Trump shouldn't continue to be Prez is one thing, but assuming a worldwide pandemic could be kept out of one large free multicultural country, solely by it's main leader, and that because it wasn't, they're going to lose the next election solely because of it, is simply wishful thinking for some. 

The education system here is a joke btw. 4th online program we have to try now, yet the login passwords are still at school, so now it's waiting for the teacher to be allowed back into the school to get the passwords, to mail to all the students. We spend way more time on trying to get all these crap programs to run than the kids spend on them to learn if they learn anything from them at all. Good way to add more stress to a stressful situation.

Our next crisis will be in 20 years, when all the haphazardly home schooled children run the country ;)

1) "Weird figures today.  New cases is still dropping, but the deaths have gone back up."

Because 2 weeks ago, the US (new york state) had yet to reach the peak in terms of active cases hospitalised.
Peak for deaths pr day, isnt until a two weeks+ or so after the peak hospitalised.


2) "That's the theory we're talking about.  I don't believe it will end up as cost-effective as advertised."

If it works everywhere else in the world, why wouldnt it work in the US? theres no reason it wouldnt.


3) "And, for what it's worth, prescription drugs are a bit of a different topic.  Without the United States essentially subsidizing breakthroughs for the world, I worry that the pharmaceutical industry will stop producing new medications at the clip they are."

US National Library of Medicine, claims the US is responcible for 33% of patents for new drugs if you look at the distribution of the entire world.
Now, thats alot, but the US is a big country.   If you add up the most of the countries in the EU, that number is around 31% (w the UK included).

So I dont think theres any reason to believe things would change (speed of research), if you changed your system.

4)  "If anything, the rest of the world is piggybacking on the United States on this one."

According to the US National Library of Medicine, if the US accounts for ~33% of these pantents on new drugs....
that means the remaining ~67% is someone done by others.  How is that in any way the US piggyback carrying others? The US is just doing their part (equal to their size), also this isnt out of the goodness of their pure hearts, its so they can make insane profits.

That's a pretty odd way to look at the world. Another country, or countries in this case, make terrible decisions, leading to your country suffering because of it, and all you care about is blaming your own leadership? If I were the leader of another country, especially a lousy leader, people with that type of mindset worldwide would be my best friends. No matter how bad I screw up, I can do little to no wrong. Speed past go, collect however much I want. I wonder why other countries don't go out of their way more often to trouble America?

Ok, but at least it wasn't a poor one that needed to be corrected this time.