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You concerned yet?

Yes 67 44.37%
 
No, but I will be followi... 48 31.79%
 
No, its being overblown 36 23.84%
 
Total:151

Wow..... Germany says part of the reason, their % are so low is beacuse in the last week alone, they have tested 300-500k people.

"That allows us to prepare earlier than has perhaps been possible in other countries,” - Lothar Wieler (Robert Koch Institute)

“We want to use this time,” (to double or tripple, intensive care capacity)

“This is still the calm before the storm. No one can say exactly what’s coming in the next few weeks.”

“We are just starting out to fight the corona(virus) epidemic. The numbers will rise further,”


source : https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany/germany-still-in-calm-before-coronavirus-storm-health-minister-idUSKBN21D23A



I wish our goverment here in denmark was doing the same.
(but I know they arnt, they probably thought it unnessary to spend that much on testing)


*edit:
Apparently testing it getting better in denmark too, currently they are able to do more than 2,500 tests pr day ( over 17,500 pr week).
They expect to soon be able to double that.  We re a small country so its not as horrible as I assumed, though not quite germany levels (pr population).



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drkohler said:
SvennoJ said:

However a strange severe pneumonia was already circulating in Northern Italy at the end of November.

Nothern Italy has one of the largest, if not the largest, Chinatowns in the world (poulation size basically unknown due to many illegals). This is due to the fact that the italian fashion industry has been taken over by Chinese companies beginning in the mid-eighties. Nowadays, practically the whole manufacturing of "Italian fashion" is done by Chinese in Chinese factories.

Chinese people traveling from/to China to/from Italy happened all the time, so there is no surprise if that included people from the Wuhan region.

Ah I did not know that, that makes a lot of sense.

Further indications that it's our whole society that is to blame for pandemics being so easily possible nowadays. You don't blame the first person that crashes a car, due to an underlying defect, for bad driving. You recall all the cars and fix the underlying defect. And that's a simple static chance, effecting at most a couple people. The start of a new virus has a very low static chance as well and will keep occurring. It's the way we live that turns it into a pandemic.

Hopefully more awareness to stay home when sick, cover your coughs etc and frequently wash your hands for at least 20 seconds with soap will also have a positive effect on the next flu season. And hopefully the current rise in video conferencing and working from home will reduce future traffic as well. And better regulations how to handle livestock will help as well.





Interesting, covid19 is impacting weather forecasts as well
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/covid-19-decline-in-airline-flights-to-impact-weather-forecast-accuracy

Since weather is a very complex, chaotic system, forecasters use computer models to assist them in their day-to-day work. These computer models, in turn, rely on ingesting specific sources of information to produce their views of what the weather will be in the hours or days ahead. Readings taken by ground stations, ocean buoys and ships cover the surface conditions. Data from satellites tell what is going on in the upper levels of the atmosphere. To cover what is happening at the altitudes in between, scientists launch weather balloons from specific locations, a couple of times each day. More importantly, though, aircraft provide tens of thousands of reports based on the weather conditions they fly through while they are in the air.

The main impact of the loss of so many aircraft reports is expected in the forecasts for altitudes that these aircraft fly at, namely temperature and wind conditions at an altitude of 10–12 kilometres. The most significant impacts seen are in the first 24 hours of the forecast, with lesser impacts seen out to 7 days.

In of itself, this greater uncertainty in the forecast could have a direct impact on those flights that are still making trips, including those carrying goods and cargo between nations and continents.

Aircrafts apparently also play an important roll to pinpoint the exact location of the jet stream which has direct effects on local weather forecasts. Not that those are all that accurate anyway :p



SvennoJ said:
drkohler said:

Nothern Italy has one of the largest, if not the largest, Chinatowns in the world (poulation size basically unknown due to many illegals). This is due to the fact that the italian fashion industry has been taken over by Chinese companies beginning in the mid-eighties. Nowadays, practically the whole manufacturing of "Italian fashion" is done by Chinese in Chinese factories.

Chinese people traveling from/to China to/from Italy happened all the time, so there is no surprise if that included people from the Wuhan region.

Ah I did not know that, that makes a lot of sense.

Further indications that it's our whole society that is to blame for pandemics being so easily possible nowadays. You don't blame the first person that crashes a car, due to an underlying defect, for bad driving. You recall all the cars and fix the underlying defect. And that's a simple static chance, effecting at most a couple people. The start of a new virus has a very low static chance as well and will keep occurring. It's the way we live that turns it into a pandemic.

Hopefully more awareness to stay home when sick, cover your coughs etc and frequently wash your hands for at least 20 seconds with soap will also have a positive effect on the next flu season. And hopefully the current rise in video conferencing and working from home will reduce future traffic as well. And better regulations how to handle livestock will help as well.

Oh yes you can blame someone when they've drove that car countless times after crashing it.

Now, I fon't blame them pre industrial but ffs, regulate your citizens who are handling livestock and regulate them hard after the Russian flu, Hong kong flu but definetly after Sars, swine flu etc cause you don't have any excuses after that point in modern history. Maybe ban eating live Animals for one. We in the west regulate farmers for this reason, diseases among animals taking out another farmers livestock taking the forefront but this is also a majour reason and it works.

China needs to pay reparations for this shit, maybe wipe debt from the countries they've wronged here and maybe, just maybe they will start regulating livestock and live animal trading this time around. If we are all still standing globally at the end of this. 



 

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Passed 500k before the weekend. Can't even drink the pain of it away without shame. 1m party Saturday week?



 

John2290 said:
Passed 500k before the weekend. Can't even drink the pain of it away without shame. 1m party Saturday week?

7 days ago it was 244k.
(so it took ~7days to double to 500k+)

However because of how many countries have gone into lockdown, as early as a week or more before.... spread should start to slow (in some places of the world). For it to double again, should take longer than 7days.

So 1m worldwide, would probably be like 10-14days out or something instead.



JRPGfan said:
John2290 said:
Passed 500k before the weekend. Can't even drink the pain of it away without shame. 1m party Saturday week?

7 days ago it was 244k.
(so it took ~7days to double to 500k+)

However because of how many countries have gone into lockdown, as early as a week or more before.... spread should start to slow.
For it to double again, should take longer than 7days.

So 1m worldwide, would probably be like 14days out or something instead.

Very doubtful when numbers are still lagging behind, the best india can muster is a self imposed 14hr lockdown, places like Brazil aiming to go back to work. If anytjing will slow those numbers it will be testing pulled back. 



 

John2290 said:
Passed 500k before the weekend. Can't even drink the pain of it away without shame. 1m party Saturday week?

7 minutes later 510k...



jason1637 said:
John2290 said:
Passed 500k before the weekend. Can't even drink the pain of it away without shame. 1m party Saturday week?

7 minutes later 510k...

Nah, it was 509k so until 1k in those 7 minutes but those numbers are coming in batches and often from yesterdays tally.