"I literally almost choked when I discovered that Americans on average pay $10,000 to have a baby... And some hospitals even charge the mother to hold their child after birth. That is insane. Criminally insane."

I bet 8/10ths of that is just pure profits too.
Theres no way it should cost that much.
Ontop of which, no country with universal healthcare would ask new parents to shoulder such a bill.

Most places you get "help" (economically) when you choose to have a baby, so its easier to start a family.

The paying to hold your own child after you gave birth.... thats just one a whole 'nother level.
Are there mothers that then choose not to hold their own child, to save a few bucks? at hospitals.
Thats sick, its sick you would charge these mothers for that too.

I just assumed every country after delivery, you gave the baby to the mother to hold for abit.
Its what you see in movies, every damn one, and in practis if you ever go to see a birth.
Which mother wouldnt want to see or hold their own baby after birth? none.

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On the matter of better health care systems..... USA got off lightly with their spread of this thing.
Europe got royally screwed over, it spread too far before it was discovered.
US had plenty of time to act, before outbreak became as serious there.

I'm sure DT is just going to roll over and let the narrative that it's all his fault take useful shape against him. No way is he going to consistently keep on pointing out that it was China's fault initially, which led to the rest of the world dealing with it, not to mention the rest of the China issue's he's been bringing to light for some time. I wonder if there's any other American leaders that had to deal with epidemic/pandemic severe illnesses, and how well or poorly they handled it in comparison?

If your partner get's covid and it makes your life tough for a while, when they get better and you can begin to put things back together, you don't divorce them. (unless they were cheating on you perhaps)

If your older boss get's covid and ends up in the hospital for weeks or more fighting it, and your life is made tougher because of it, when they return to work, you don't demand that they quit or get replaced.

None of these people created the illness. None of them contracted it on purpose. None of them purposely weakened themselves so they would take longer than necessary to fight off the illness. So why would you want them out of your life because you had to deal with the unfortunate consequences?

What the Dems need to hope for, if they plan to weaponize this, is that the American economy takes a much bigger hit than the other first world nations, and that it takes longer to get back on track. In that case, they will have somewhat of a point, though not all that strong by itself. If one or both of those turn out not to be true, it not only won't help them, it'll actually hurt them.

Looks like two poor analogies by both of us, again.

With all the science talk that's been going around, this fortune teller nonsense has some of us a little confused.

If the experts are so sure about the future, why didn't they warn China it was going to start there in Wuhan in the first place?

Afaik, the doctors did warn China of a possible outbreak and were silenced by the chinese government. One of them died by the virus.

Most countries have criteria for testing. Something like symptoms and contact to known infected. If the number of tests goes down it means fewer people are meeting this criteria. This is by far not bulletproof and broad testing without preconditions would be better, but it probably still means the number of infected is slowly going down.

While speaking about the deaths per 1m population we also have to look at the average age and especially percentage of population above something like 70 years.

USA as example is way younger than Italy, Spain, Germany and so on...

The number of deaths per 1m population isn't really telling the whole story.

Turkey as example is pretty close to Germany (both around 83m people) but there are probably 5x as many people above 70 in Germany.

USA has Like 5.5x as many people as Italy but probably only 3x as many above 65 and maybe only 2x as many above 75

But many politicians in younger countries won't speak about that while mentioning how awesome they handle it. It's not "we handle it so so awesome" If you simply have much less old people per 1m population.

True. And that could actually be a shimmer of hope for 3rd-world countries, as their demographics usually tend to be much younger.

It's Easter's end, can't wait for the big bombs to drop today. Probably gonna reach 2m infected today.

Yeah, Austria did pretty well, not as well as Australia, but better than most:

https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&data=deaths&location=Australia&location=Denmark&location=France&location=US

An early reaction and useful stuff like using masks works pretty well.

Some will drop today, but most will be delayed until tomorrow. A lot of countries present their test results from the previous day, Easter Monday in this case. Which is probably still going to be low. Italy for example always gives their total from the day before all at once. And most test results are a day behind anyway, tests taken yesterday (likely fewer) are going through the labs today. But 2 million is very likely today. Europe has 2 or 3 days left before crossing the 1 million.

I'm updating some of my growth graphs atm, it's quite comical, everything is falling off a cliff. Easter cured covid19!