But how many deaths and infected would we have with the same lack of measurements we have with the normal flu? If I go to work (around 1000 people) and some people get the flu, nothing happens so that we have obviously more and more people getting it at work and everywhere else my workmates go to. If someone would be infected by the corona virus, we would probably all be under quarantine. 

So, yes, the normal flu does kill more people but the corona virus is still way more dangerous if countries would handle it like a normal flu. Just watch how many doctors who just helped those infected have it as well now or already died from it.

People shouldn't worry too much about this virus but it's also nothing to laugh about. There is a reason why countries do what they do against it and why we will see companies losing billions in revenue this year because of it. 

Not a single word I wrote was about death count. It was about suggested total number of infections.

This is something I notice in many of your posts: If you are caught with pants down, you simple change the subject, make false assumptions or obfuscate the thread. (Same thing recently happened in the "gpu teraflop thread"- you suddenly started to blather about "cpu clock rate").

Amazing Einstein, you know how to read statistics, I tip my hat to you sir. And now we know for sure (since you know how to read statistics) that we are fucked. It's the end, collapse is just around the corner so start crapping your pants, take a gun and go kill people randomly in the street, it's ok, if you don't kill them, they will die anyway because of this virus so you're not really doing anything bad by killing them, in fact you make their dying quick and painless vs a protracted and potentially painful death by the virus, also no one will be around to judge you and put you in jail.

Also as of right now, everybody stop posting in all the other threads in the forum cause they are all irrelevant now. Politics? we are all dead so there won't be an election in November, talking about it is now pointless. Video games? Whatever games are in the making will never be released cause we are all going to die soon. Movies, sports, NSFW, miscellaneous etc... all pointless, we are dead men walking.

So what to do now? Panic everybody I guess, what else are we supposed to do? It's the end of the world. Too bad it's the middle of winter cause if this was summer I'd get completely naked and run around in the streets of my city just for the lolz and if someone told me something I'd tell them it's ok, the end of the world is upon us and this time it's for absolutely sure, no question whatsoever, cause some dude online know how to read statistics PROPERLY!

Not a single word about others speaking of imaginary death counts of 10% when the actual figure is as of right now 2 to 3% roughly. And you are piling up on that with suggestions of BILLIONS of people infected while at the same time not denying the percentage of deaths, thus indirectly implying hundreds of millions of deaths.

I have been explaining and demonstrating how exaggerated the claims are when some talk about 230 million people dying of this virus, not contaminated but DYING. There is no credible information TODAY that allows anyone to say that the death toll will be so apocalyptic, it's total BS, that's DEBUNKING and it's what I do.

YOU are the one making FALSE assumptions and obfuscating. you say I do that in MANY of my posts so please give me a list of those posts, they are MANY not a few, not a couple, YET you can ONLY give one example, some GPU teraflop thread where I "blather" about cpu clock rate??? Where is that thread? In what post did I blather about cpu clock rate? Funny how this feels like YOU are CHANGING the subject of the virus to me blathering in other threads.

No need to panic, and nobody says you should. I'm just saying that your statistic and calculation is wrong due to standing on the wrong bases. No need to  mock me so aggressively for that. 

Sorry about the "aggressive" part, I just tend to get defensive when I am confronted with irrational behavior. And it's not just you, some other guy is leading a frontal charge against me and accusing me of unrelated stuff, so yeah, I have to deal with that too.

So now you are saying no need to panic, nobody says I should right? Yet, you and others clearly tell me that my 2 to 3% death rate is wrong (even though currently it's the actual rate) but ok let's assume it's wrong, the actual death rate is much higher. 10% as some suggest which means that 2.3 billion people will get infected since you guys are saying that 230 million people are going to die.

So now allow me to calmly question your last sentence: no need to panic, nobody says I should. Excuse me but if 2.3 billion people are going to get infected and 10% of them die which is 230 million, which means a strongly possible societal collapse, don't you think we SHOULD panic? I said there is no need to panic cause I assumed the death toll will be of a few thousands at the most, but some say it will be a whopping 230 million. If I'm wrong then I change my mind and I say, it's seriously time to panic and completely freak out. I mean 230 million deaths totally warrant a state of panic in my humble opinion.

Scroll down and you'll see that the only thing I addressed from the start is the 2% claim coming from taking infected vs deaths instead of recoveries vs deaths. When I mentioned the 230M, that was in regard of your claim that you'd need to infect everybody on the planet to get to those 230M with a 2% mortality rate and that with 10%, 230M would then be very conservative. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough that I only meant the difference between mortality rates, because I don't believe those 230M deaths will happen either.

It sounds like you're the one that's panicking. The world will go on, life will go on. Indeed very likely not everyone will get infected when it spirals out of control and spreads like the flu, perhaps a way to combat the effects and increase survival rate will be found as well.

But things are serious when 20% of cases end up seriously ill to critical condition status.

The Diamond Princess is a good micro cosmos for any estimates on infection rate. It normally has 2670 passengers and 1100 crew. The first batch of 621 passengers have now been cleared, 691 confirmed infected, 17 recovered, 3 deaths so far and 36 serious/critical. Infection rate of just over 18% despite the efforts to contain spreading of the virus.

Of course not everywhere in the world has the same medical resources to care for the critical cases. That 2% figure is already too low and if nothing is found while the virus gets away, it will certainly go up. Not the end of the world, but it's right to take this seriously.

But if you want to go run around in the street naked, go for it.

Btw I said

"A disease that can potentially  kill 230 million people is not worthy of concern?"

No one ever said that 230 million people will die, just that the possibility of many millions of deaths is there when you look at the statistics and realize that all the known cases (at least the ones outside China) are currently getting the best possible medical attention there is.

Why would I panic when I'm the one saying things are NOT as bad as you say they are? And I never said this virus should not be taken seriously. But try to understand what I'm saying here. You are talking about 230 million people dead by the time this virus is done. This is a situation (if true) that would go way beyond anything we as a species have known in the past millennium at least if not more.

But like I said before, back in 2003 that other corona virus known as SARS did not kill 230 million people, it killed roughly 700 people and just like this present virus it was just as infectious and there was no drug to stop it. So if that virus did not kill 230 million people why would you think this virus could?

Look at your own figures. The Diamond Princess, out of 2670 passenger 3 ONLY are dead, China, out of 75k infected, less than 2500 are dead (about 3%) Italy 150 infected so far 3 are dead (about 2%) etc... I'm not saying this virus cannot get worse or mutate or even go above 3%, I'm only saying SO FAR it's never above 3% so my ONLY question here to you and others is, how do you guys go from this very real 3%, to a situation where 230 MILLION people die? That's the one thing I don't get. That's all I'm saying, nothing more.

And finally if you are right and we get an apocalypse where 230 million or more people die, don't tell me not to panic cause at that point, panic is totally warranted. I'm the one saying don't panic cause I don't think we'll get there but should you be right about so many dying, then I for one would be scared and I'm sure everybody else here would be too.

EDIT: Ok you added that 230 million people can potentially die, not die for sure. I hear you and I see what you mean, but do you really believe it could potentially go that far? Do you think there could be a scenario where that many people die with this virus? I hope not of course, but if yes, then we are in for a scary time, I'm sure we can all agree on that.