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EricHiggin said:
JEMC said:

The way I see it, the air will come in from the bottom intakes and leave from the top. After all, hot air goes up, and using the top fan to draw air inside would go against it, making it less efficient.

To avoid the use of warm/hot air to cool the APU, it's possible to use one of the air intakes for the PSU, with the warm air going then into the console, while the other intake goes straight in to the console to cool the APU and other components, and then mixing with the air coming fom the PSU and leaving from the top.

It looks like the bottom is all one PSU unit, but definitely can't say that for sure based on the single pic available. It could be as you said, that one side is for PSU air intake and the other is more for the rest of the console and heat sink. The air could combine once it's through the PSU, or the PSU could possibly have a separation shroud that went all the way up to the top fan so that heat didn't mix internally, yet all get's exhausted together at the top. With there being extra holes at the rear that are blocked right now, it would seem they are still testing the airflow and temps, and fine tuning how much internal vacuum to create and how much air is allowed to pass through. You don't want too much vacuum as that will pull in more dust.

Are we certain that at this time the PSU is inside the console? Perhaps it again will have a huge power brick.



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victor83fernandes said:

Not at all, it looks too small to me, the ps4 pro is almost as big and even tough its way weaker it still makes a loud noise with the fan and cooling. If the ps5 will be as small as a ps4 pro, it will melt. Most people here do not understand how electronics/PCs work, you cant have a monster and make it tiny.

No playstation ever melted in my hand and for all the cries of jet engine on PS4 and Pro it never bothered me. So I trust that whatever form factor Sony decides it won't break down or smoke down on me so if specs are enough I am ok.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I want to believe this is legit because the picture is sharp. The only thing I dont get how does it stand with that curve part at the bottom of the console?

I seriously hope MS doesn't add a huge power brick to this as well seeing as this already looks like a power brick lol



TomaTito said:
Barkley said:

It's the Sync button for pairing controllers.

How is syncing done with the Xbox One?

XBO also has a sync button, you can use it to pair the controllers wirelessly or you can use USB as well. So it looks like XSX will be the same.



Pyro as Bill said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Yeah, that would be a dilemma for Sony.

Sharing games with PC in general would be a problem for them. Given they often allow 3rd party exclusives on PC.

If people think MS REALLY cares about international sales, then it would support Windows and it would sell well just for that.

If MS puts this 'Windows mode' behind their XB Ultimate Game Pass then they overcome the issue of not making any money from people who'd only use it as a PC.

At this point I kinda just assumed Windows makes money by collecting and selling data. Like any other respectable OS.

Its always possible MS just wants more people using Windows. Using their console isnt a crazy idea to achieve that. Just seems unlikely.

I've argued a big reason Xbox games are on Windows was to prop up the Micosoft Store. Thus helping Windows 10. Increased software revenue likely became a focus as well.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Pyro as Bill said:

If MS puts this 'Windows mode' behind their XB Ultimate Game Pass then they overcome the issue of not making any money from people who'd only use it as a PC.

At this point I kinda just assumed Windows makes money by collecting and selling data. Like any other respectable OS.

They probably do.

Its always possible MS just wants more people using Windows. Using their console isnt a crazy idea to achieve that. Just seems unlikely.

The console business model directly conflicts with the PC gaming model. It wouldn't make sense....until now. Phil Spencer keeps harping on about how console sales aren't important anymore and he has a point when it comes to MS. I've no interest in a XSX but a Windows gaming PC that is also an XSX for $599 would be very tempting even if it meant paying $4/month to use Windows.

Given the size of the thing and the number of different devices that use Windows these days and the fact that it might mean they can brag about having Sony's games on their console via Windows, seems dumb not to do it.

I've argued a big reason Xbox games are on Windows was to prop up the Micosoft Store. Thus helping Windows 10. Increased software revenue likely became a focus as well.



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Fallawful said:
I hear rumours that this will be able to run Windows 10 and boot up in PC mode. If this is true I'm interested in the console (I have always had Macs).

This also consolidates the shape of the console in my mind, as I know would be treating it like a PC tower. Plugging it into a monitor on a desk would not be a problem for me.

This interests me...

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DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

It looks like the bottom is all one PSU unit, but definitely can't say that for sure based on the single pic available. It could be as you said, that one side is for PSU air intake and the other is more for the rest of the console and heat sink. The air could combine once it's through the PSU, or the PSU could possibly have a separation shroud that went all the way up to the top fan so that heat didn't mix internally, yet all get's exhausted together at the top. With there being extra holes at the rear that are blocked right now, it would seem they are still testing the airflow and temps, and fine tuning how much internal vacuum to create and how much air is allowed to pass through. You don't want too much vacuum as that will pull in more dust.

Are we certain that at this time the PSU is inside the console? Perhaps it again will have a huge power brick.

Well with consoles I believe that 250w connector has always been a simple cord with an internal PSU. Pretty sure even the PS2 slim had a different connection due to it's power brick.

If they were able to squeeze a 250w PSU inside the XB1X, then they can certainly fit it in the XBSX. If XBSX is that large and the power brick is external, it's going to become a joke again like it was with XB1. 

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mutantsushi said:
victor83fernandes said:

Thanks Im new here even tough I have been reading on this site for many years. I didn't even realize about the quote button, appreciated it.

No problem, you're welcome. The Xbox Series X (blah... I think I'll call it Screex, flows better off the tongue) "leak" image is basically what I expected from MS' earlier PR. It's interesting there's been hardly any dissastisfaction re: lack of Kinect, although really that says how marginal it really ever was all along. To the extent something like that is valuable going forward I would say it is in context of VR, but MS seems to be leaving that niche to Sony. Honestly for me it's hard to get excited about this compared to Sony's devkit which feels like it's out of a sci-fi film or something it's so gonzo. Expecting anything like it in final PS5 feels unrealistic, but the fact they did it where they could just inspires confidence in their design team. Technically it would be even doper if the faux-metal parts were real metal, but even without it seems like it could be used as prop in real movie.

Those are excellent points, I was impressed with the VR with PS4, its still in its infancy but it has huge potential, games such as snooker and table tennis were perfect in it and great innovative experiences for gaming. I'm sure Microsoft will 'jump in' next generation on this, its a huge reason to choose ps5 just for VR.

I agree with you on the naming of the console, just like public was confused with Wii U, public will get confuse between Xbox X and Xbox series X, they might thing its just a minor upgrade instead of a brand new generation console, it will hurt marketing to the general public. They should name it something catchy and public should know its a totally brand new thing. Nintendo learned this lesson by properly naming their newest console, and it paid off.

That design of ps4 dev kit could never be the final thing, for one, the ventilation is in the wrong place, they want hot air to get out and spread out as quick as possible, but dev kit if real means hot air will be gathering in one single place. Then, it seems too costly to make that design to the public, sony learned from ps3 they cant make it costly, so logic tells me it will be just a box like any other console ever. Personally I prefer a design to be vertical, but it might hurt Microsoft because it might not fit in many peoples TV centre, even tough such powerful consoles should be out in the open instead of in media centres in enclosed spaces. My Ps4 pro is a lot quieter out in the open than inside the media centre due to ventilation.

I also hope Sony gives us the option for vertical without extra cost of a stand, which, even tough its only 30dollars, that's an extra still.

Lastly I hope sony gives us an option to switch off the controller light because it reflects on the TV screens, even tough I cant complain as I use a projector so I get no reflections, I know the light is essential for VR but over 90% of consumers do not have VR.

I will not take seriously any designs that appear on the internet until sony presents the final console, I learned from previous generations that internet designs are always way different than the final product, reminds me of the ps3 controller which was completely different than what was shown on the internet.

Sony had beautiful designs with PS2 and original PS3 so fingers crossed.