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TomaTito on 22 January 2020
Fallawful said:
I hear rumours that this will be able to run Windows 10 and boot up in PC mode. If this is true I'm interested in the console (I have always had Macs).

This also consolidates the shape of the console in my mind, as I know would be treating it like a PC tower. Plugging it into a monitor on a desk would not be a problem for me.

Now that would be interesting, nice HTPC or even gaming PC for some people.



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derpysquirtle64 on 22 January 2020
shikamaru317 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
What is the large rectangle port on the back? Is that for a memory card or something?

Also, where is the Kinect port?

According to Thurrot’s sources, the large rectangular port is for a diagnostic tool and will not be on the retail version.

No Kinect port or HDMI-In for tv passthrough. Those seem to be 2 features that will die with XB1 since barely anybody used them.

Kinect was already gone since One S. No surprises here. The another feature being gone is IR receiver and that’s actually the most useful one IMO. It makes my Xbox one media remote incompatible with Series X.

shikamaru317 said:

The back panel seems to be easily removable, hope that makes it into the final design as it would make upgrading to a larger SSD much easier. The 1 TB SSD it will likely come with is not going to hold many games with next-gen file sizes.

Yeah, this have to be the case. Sony had another advantage this gen with easily replaceable drive, MS should follow.

Fallawful said:
I hear rumours that this will be able to run Windows 10 and boot up in PC mode. If this is true I'm interested in the console (I have always had Macs).

This also consolidates the shape of the console in my mind, as I know would be treating it like a PC tower. Plugging it into a monitor on a desk would not be a problem for me.

This won’t happen. MS stated numerous of times they are in the business of selling software, not selling hardware. If there actually is some windows mode, it will have lots of limitations. Like only apps from MS Store for example. No win32 support etc.



 

JEMC on 22 January 2020
EricHiggin said:
Kinda hard to tell, but doesn't look like there's any fan at the base where the PSU is. So one big fan at the top sucking air in and blowing it down and out of those exhaust holes at the rear? They wouldn't pull air in through the PSU from the base first would they? It's always been through the console and heat sinks first and then past the PSU before the hot air exits. You don't really want hot PSU air being used to cool the APU heat sink.

The way I see it, the air will come in from the bottom intakes and leave from the top. After all, hot air goes up, and using the top fan to draw air inside would go against it, making it less efficient.

To avoid the use of warm/hot air to cool the APU, it's possible to use one of the air intakes for the PSU, with the warm air going then into the console, while the other intake goes straight in to the console to cool the APU and other components, and then mixing with the air coming fom the PSU and leaving from the top.



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thismeintiel on 22 January 2020
TomaTito said:
Mr Puggsly said:
What is the large rectangle port on the back? Is that for a memory card or something?

Also, where is the Kinect port?

Console looks fine, but that rectangle port seems the most interesting thing shown here.

What is next to the USB at the front? A button?

My guess is either a power button or an LED indicator. If it's an LED indicator, it sticking out instead of being flush makes it look cheap.



 

Fallawful on 22 January 2020
derpysquirtle64 said:
shikamaru317 said:

According to Thurrot’s sources, the large rectangular port is for a diagnostic tool and will not be on the retail version.

No Kinect port or HDMI-In for tv passthrough. Those seem to be 2 features that will die with XB1 since barely anybody used them.

Kinect was already gone since One S. No surprises here. The another feature being gone is IR receiver and that’s actually the most useful one IMO. It makes my Xbox one media remote incompatible with Series X.

shikamaru317 said:

The back panel seems to be easily removable, hope that makes it into the final design as it would make upgrading to a larger SSD much easier. The 1 TB SSD it will likely come with is not going to hold many games with next-gen file sizes.

Yeah, this have to be the case. Sony had another advantage this gen with easily replaceable drive, MS should follow.

Fallawful said:
I hear rumours that this will be able to run Windows 10 and boot up in PC mode. If this is true I'm interested in the console (I have always had Macs).

This also consolidates the shape of the console in my mind, as I know would be treating it like a PC tower. Plugging it into a monitor on a desk would not be a problem for me.

This won’t happen. MS stated numerous of times they are in the business of selling software, not selling hardware. If there actually is some windows mode, it will have lots of limitations. Like only apps from MS Store for example. No win32 support etc.

The rumours I read did say it would be limited, so this does not contradict (I'll find the article if you are curious, but obviously I'm taking the rumours with a grain of salt). The limited PC mode would primarily serve to boot up Steam, Windows 10 store, etc. 

Microsoft's ethos is to let people buy software and play it wherever they want. Accessing your Steam library from a console would nicely fit into this process. Anyway, I like this idea and would totally get the console to play Steam games I can't with my Mac. I don't want to have a whole other PC. 



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Random_Matt on 22 January 2020

Looks cheap and nasty, plastic can be premium you know.



Hynad on 22 January 2020
JRPGfan said:
Hynad said:

You are almost making sense. But quantum computing is exponentially faster than current cpu tech. And faster computing is always a plus for gaming.

The tech simply isn’t ready in its current state to be used on a consumer level.

*at certain task to which it is well suited.

Its not just exponentially faster at everything (from what I understand) (supposedly theres task it does alot slower than current x86 cpu's).

Anyways quantum computers, require them to run really cold.... and you need to calibrate it, everytime its shut down or moved.
Imagine everytime you wanted to turn on your console, it would take a few hours to cooldown first,
and lock some of these particles into place, with the right spin ect, before you could boot it up.


Its not practical to make a consumer grade, mass produced quantum computer, for a gameing console.
it would be alot more expensive, bigger, louder, require much more calibration (at each home), and slower for gameing related stuff (most likely).
Its a bad idea, atleast currently, maybe these things change in the future.

You seem to have a hard time with reading comprehension.

Let me quote myself:

The tech simply isn’t ready in its current state to be used on a consumer level.

Quantum computing is in its infancy. It is currently not practical to produce any consumer grade quantum computer at all, let alone quantum computers at all. The tech is still the object of scientific research!! *facepalm* There’s hardly any use for it because it is still studied and refinement of it hasn’t yet been enough to make it to any consumer product. When it finally happen, it will be a paradigm shift for   computers. Whatever you think you know about it is based on what primitive understanding of it scientists currently have a it. But they all agree that it will eventually change the way computers operate.
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Barkley on 22 January 2020
Mr Puggsly said:
What is the large rectangle port on the back? Is that for a memory card or something?

Also, where is the Kinect port?

Yeah, that rectangle port is interesting, not sure what it's for. Perhaps that is the Kinect port, maybe they're doing a Kinect 3.0? Though it'd be annoying to not support the current one as I'm not sure what upgrades the Kinect actually needs. Whatever that ports for it certainly is the most interesting thing revealed in these images. Could even be a slot for an NVME M2 SSD, it's big enough but it would be a weird way to fit it.

TomaTito said:
Mr Puggsly said:
What is the large rectangle port on the back? Is that for a memory card or something?

Also, where is the Kinect port?

Console looks fine, but that rectangle port seems the most interesting thing shown here.

What is next to the USB at the front? A button?

It's the Sync button for pairing controllers.



ArchangelMadzz on 22 January 2020
Mr Puggsly said:
What is the large rectangle port on the back? Is that for a memory card or something?

Also, where is the Kinect port?

What's a Kinect? s/


OT: MS Aren't known for good looking console designs but yeah, it doesn't look 'ugly' per say, just... very plain. 



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Dulfite on 22 January 2020
JRPGfan said:
Dulfite said:
But can it do quantum gaming?

I wonder what a game for a quantum computer would even look like.

From what I understand, on or off states, with a quantum computer is more like Sometimes on, sometimes not, sometimes both, sometimes neither....
And that allows it to run many differnt branches at the same time, to problem solve. 
Which is supposedly great for math problems that take forever to calculate, or breaking incryptions.

However I doubt that sort of funktion, would have any benefits on gameing.

However no, it cant do "quantum gameing" because its just regular old x86 binary cpu in there :)
(which is probably a million times better for gameing anyways)

I love that my question generated this sort of response. Thank you