Well, DF showed Gear 5 running at 4K on ultra high + other settings that were only available on the Xbox One Series X...

I mean the machine is capable of true 4K, at this point it will be up to the developer to go for full 4K/upscaled.

I'd love it if there was a premium version with 2tb SSD and Elite controller for an extra $99. I'd go for that one.

lol, that bundle would be at least 150 bucks extra, if not 200.

Was playing through Wolfenstein 2 when my X shut itself down due to overheating for the first time. Got a message indicating that on the next booting process.

Was fighting one of those huge mechs, already lying on the ground and the console crashed as soon as one of its missles hit my face. Best death ever.

Ryuu96 said: After completing Metro Exodus, I'm very happy for better loading times. Holy crap that game has awful loading times.

Playing that now....lol the Caspian level loading is brutal. I make myself lunch for work while it loads 

My apologies for not replying ASAP, had a few emergencies here. (Vehicle fire, vehicle recovery, hazmat job in the last couple of days.)

Need more details on the CPU.. But should actually be a little bit slower than the 3700X by a few percentage points due to lower clocks.
Still big unknowns to the cache hierarchy which could impact performance by 10-20% or more yet, just don't know.
The Ryzen 7 3700X is certainly the closest fit in terms of capabilities on the PC though, it's a good mid-range and capable CPU.

As far as GPU's go... Geforce 2080 is a good ballpark... Ray Tracing and Integer capabilities line up as well it seems. (But will need RDNA 2 hardware to actually verify fist hand of course!)

Some games will definitely be 4k due to the impressive fill-rate/bandwidth on offer.
Later games in the generation will likely make sacrifices to that end to bolster image quality, normal expected affair.

Mix of Very High and High PC equivalent settings most certainly to start with.

Now that I know the specs... And the RAM capacity and other expectations fell roughly inline to what I predicted years ago, I am actually impressive by what is on offer, especially with the strong focus to non-floating point capabilities like integer.

Storage wise, the SSD is fairly mid-range, 2.5GB/s is nothing to sneeze at of course, the PS5's SSD is apprantly "twice as fast" - But again. Benchmarks might tell a different story. (It's one thing to make a statement, another to back it up in real world scenarios.)

Plus Microsoft was probably a little bit more conservative on that front in order to make the SSD expandable storage more viable, it's harder to delivery 5GB/s of bandwidth reliably when you need to deliver it externally.

Microsoft has also done a shit-ton more work on the CPU-offloading approach with decompression and so-forth handled by a separate chunk of silicon, in-fact... I feel technologically it's taken a few pages from the Xbox One X's command processor on this front, which is nothing but a good thing.

Audio is also a fantastic step forward, the Original Xbox had amazing audio thanks in part to the nVidia Soundstorm solution, we hadn't really made giant improvements on 3D positional audio since, but that seems to be changing this next-gen.

120fps is just but a buzzword, so is 8k. Not real features that will be of much use to gamers on most televisions, good check-box features though I guess, but developers will build software for the common standards which will be 4k, 60fps.

I am extremely happy with the hardware for the most part.

It's like Microsoft took the Xbox One X... And replaced everything with components that would be available in 2020, which is not a bad thing.

Even the memory with it's potential for differing bandwidth levels was a thing with the Xbox One X.

By the looks of it, you can't buy your own nVME cards and use it in the console.

Microsoft have instead opted for a "propriety" interface for expandable storage... And there is actually a reason for this... Because you can get some extremely "shit" nVME cards which will perform like a dogs breakfast and not retain data reliably. - Microsoft is trying to ensure a consistent performance environment for developers, considering that RAM capacity is at a premium, so leveraging the SSD will be super vital.

Plus unlike the start of the 8th generation... Microsoft isn't opting for storage which trends below the industry standard for performance (I.E. 40-60MB/s) and thus every USB HDD since isn't going to match or beat it in performance by sometimes, even several multiples.

So yes, storage is going to be insanely expensive next-gen.

What I might do personally is buy expandable storage one for each console platform, one for OG Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox Series X.

Every GPU on the market outclasses it, the console isn't even released yet.

Also we need to remember that Steam doesn't account for PC's with 2, 3 or 4 GPU's... And also doesn't account for PC's with nVidia/AMD Optimus/Enduro switchable graphics... And of course Steam isn't the entire PC market.

Plus the current RTX cards like you alluded to... Are going to be replaced this year before the next-gen consoles launch.

The Xbox Series X is an impressive piece of kit no doubt, but it's not beating the PC by any stretch.

I was personally hoping for more memory... But like what me and CGI said in tech discussions a year or two ago, 16GB was always going to make the most sense from a price/performance perspective.

The different bandwidths of Ram modes shouldn't pose to much drama though, by the end of the generation... We would probably be seeing some extensive RAM limitations for sure, probably more limited than the 7th gen consoles.

They could probably optimize Gears 5 for a Geforce 2080 as well.

Geforce 2080 seems to be around the same ballpark, Geforce 2080 Super isn't a catastrophic leap from the vanilla Geforce 2080.

Damn. They could launch at a $700 price tag, and it would still be a better price to performance ratio than a comparable PC. And I think that's even after new cards come out. I don't see the next gen 2080 equivalent GPU from AMD/Nvidia costing under $300. Add in a $50 basic case, $40 non-modular PSU, $70 Micro-ATX wifi-less Mobo, $70 for the SSD, $40 for 16 GB of RAM (RAM that's going to be a bit slower than what's in this thing), $35 for Windows, and maybe a  3700X at $200. IMO that's some serious corner cutting and we're already at $805, for a comparable PC build, at what I would consider Black Friday/Cyber Monday prices next year.

I mean, we've yet to add a wireless controller, or keyboard/mouse.  Personally, I think non-modular PSUs, $50 barebones cases, and Mini-ATX Mobos, are unacceptable for pretty much any PC build.

And if this thing were to actually launch at $500?

Edit: Saw Pema's post. Changing the card to a regular 2080. I still don't see the next gen equal to a 2080 costing under $300 though, so my price remains the same.

Way I see it, PS5 being more powerful wouldn't diminish the case for Lockheart's existence. If anything, it would make it potentially more relevant, because a PS5 stronger than the Series X would most assuredly also be at least as - if not more - expensive than it too. Meaning there would by default be a gap in the market for an affordable entry system.

I don't see PS5 being more powerful. Personally, I think Lockheart will be a terrible choice, even in the extremely unlikely even that PS5 is stronger than Series X. You get the worst graphics, and the worst library out of all the systems launching this year.

PC Gamers trying to build a Series X comparable rig at the same price point...