Forums - Politics Discussion - Pelosi's logic: lying the country into war not impeachable, sketchy phone calls are

Pelosi was asked a difficult question on CNN and her answer was laughable. I am surprised a journalist was allowed to ask a tough question on CNN in the first place but hey, it wouldn't surprise me if they probably thought Pelosi response was a smart one.



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Watching this drunk flap her toothless mouth while searching for the right words to use in her lies is hilarious. The entire group of these idiots, right down to their msm puppets are pathetic, and it's going to cost them. 



Lying the country into a war isn't a crime.



Bush might have been lying (strike that, he definitely did), but telling a lie is not breaking any laws. A sketchy phone call normally isn't either... however, if you use your your might to strongarm another country into investigating something for personal gain by withholding funds already allocated to them if they don't comply most definitely is.

The problem lies in the legal definition: What Bush did was highly amoral, but sadly not illegal at all. What Trump is doing is not just amoral, but also illegal, and thus impeachable. Bush couldn't be impeached because he was legally in the right - they simply didn't have a case here. In fact, even less than the republicans had against Bill Clinton from a legal standpoint, and that one was already very sketchy at best right from the start.



I tried to watch the video but that host is as boring as a dead possum. I get that his job is being as sensationalistic as possible but, holy cats, get to the damn point.

I did watch the interview part, though. Politicians only care about how an action will A) impact them personally, and B) impact their party. Right or wrong, deserving or undeserving play very little part in most decision-making. Impeachment proceedings are a gamble that can backfire and experienced politicians know that.

Did her excuse sound silly? Sure. Personally, I think one of the most important skills for a politician is the ability to say silly things without cracking a smile. Really, though, so what--anyone with a brain knows she was playing the political game with regards to Bush because she didn't believe impeachment proceedings would have a favorable outcome for the Democrats.



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It's kinda sad that the main point for impeachment is a lame phone call when the actual reason should be that Trump is in all aspects unfit for office, any office. It had to be some big thing when all it took would be a pediatrician's assessment that Trump has the brain and mentality of a child and should under no circumstances be in any position of power.



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pokoko said:
I tried to watch the video but that host is as boring as a dead possum. I get that his job is being as sensationalistic as possible but, holy cats, get to the damn point.

I don't disagree, and I prefer readable news and political commentary sources for that reason, but this can be difficult sometimes especially that only independent commentators would dissect a minor answer/question like the one we're discussing.

Going off topic here, but it might be interesting to point out that the one man show in the OP makes 14k dollars monthly through patreon alone. Add youtube ad revenues to the mix, and you have someone with who's making lots of money by just speaking to in front of a camera. I find it interesting because his channel isn't particularly big. Interesting times to be alive. 

pokoko said:

I did watch the interview part, though. Politicians only care about how an action will A) impact them personally, and B) impact their party. Right or wrong, deserving or undeserving play very little part in most decision-making. Impeachment proceedings are a gamble that can backfire and experienced politicians know that.

Did her excuse sound silly? Sure. Personally, I think one of the most important skills for a politician is the ability to say silly things without cracking a smile. Really, though, so what--anyone with a brain knows she was playing the political game with regards to Bush because she didn't believe impeachment proceedings would have a favorable outcome for the Democrats.

Totally agree, but it's great that we have these easily shareable video clips now because many don't really see the bold part of your post. I cringe each time someone takes a very strong stance defending a politician or giving them too much praise for something they've done that ultimately benefits him or her the most. 

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 10 December 2019

Quite sad indeed. Pretty much says "we democrats want 4 more years off trump, but we will never admit to it"



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