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The_Liquid_Laser said:

12.  Kingdom Hearts 2

11.  Gladius

10.  One of those Metal Gear games.  Metal Gear Solid 3?

9.  Final Fantasy 7.

Got all of them except 11. It's Shadow Hearts.

For #10, there was a tweet a few years ago asking people this.

And then someone replied with this image, and it went viral.



(Her name is The Boss, by the way.)

Have you played MGS3?

Never played MGS3.  Only played MSG4 and the original NES game.  I know it has a convoluted story, but I was guessing your clue was referring to Big Boss.  Guess I stumbled into the correct answer anyway.

Alex_The_Hedgehog said:
More hints:

08 - You and your girlfriend must save the big monkey.
07 - You start the game as a Dark Knight, then you become a Paladin.
06 - The best-selling game for SNES!

7 Final Fantasy 4
6 IIRC, that is either Super Mario World or Donkey Kong Country depending on whether you count a pack-in as the best selling game.

Farsala said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

More clues:

4.  a) The developer who designed the combat system for this game wanted it to feel more intense and engaging than Fire Emblem.  Consequently, instead of each side going all at once, each character or monster has their own speed stat to determine when they act.
b) Even though this game was somewhat inspired by Fire Emblem, it released outside of Japan before any Fire Emblem game did.
c) This game is a spinoff from a popular game series, but the storyline is inspired by the War of the Roses.
d) Your best friend was long thought to be the hero in this war, but the game starts with a historian who recently found that you, the main protagonist, are the true hero.

3.  a) The combat system for this PC super hero game was inspired by Baldur's Gate.
b) Although this isn't really a Marvel game, the characters seem to pay homage to the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby Silver Age of comics.
c) This PC game probably broke what used to be known as the "Curse of the Super Hero Game" in that it was actually a really good super hero game you could play at home.  Two years later Spider-Man 2 released on PS2 and even further broke the "Curse of the Super Hero Game".
d)  Minute Man, Alchemiss, The Ant, and The Bullet are some of the many characters that you will recruit on your team.

2.  a)  The file size of this popular game is over 200 times larger than the file size of the previous entry in the series.
b) It's an RPG.
c)  It's on the PS1.

Tough to say.

4: Yugioh: Duelist of Roses?

3: City of Heroes/ City of Villains?

2: FFVII?

2 is correct!  3 and 4 are not.  4 is actually a less obscure game than you guessed.  3 on the other hand, people have trouble guessing it every year.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Alex_The_Hedgehog said:
More hints:

08 - You and your girlfriend must save the big monkey.
07 - You start the game as a Dark Knight, then you become a Paladin.
06 - The best-selling game for SNES!

7 Final Fantasy 4
6 IIRC, that is either Super Mario World or Donkey Kong Country depending on whether you count a pack-in as the best selling game.

Correct on both!



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Or wait, maybe this is the game that wins the crown of my most played ever. Yeah, probably this one. The funny thing is, even though I played this game so much, I never even touched the scenarios. I always made my own sandbox level with the included editor, and then played that map for a couple hundred in-game years. An in-game year takes about an hour, I think it depends on some computer specific factors in how much time it is exactly, but anyway you can imagine how long I took on a park perfecting it. And I had a bunch, next to another bunch that I worked on for a shorter amount of time. I didn't really like stuffing my game with a lot of user created scenery items, so most parks I made I did with vanilla assets. I mastered it, the screenshot is mine, and that's the strength of this game. Its core gameplay is so simple yet effective that everyone can pick it up and play, but if you try you can build anything you want.

Last edited by S.Peelman - on 26 December 2019

So after four Construction & Management games in the last six entries in the list, RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 is the best of such games ever made. Top 5 inbound. We're almost there.

#5: This game actually introduced a lot of this series' mainstays, like a wise guide character, but never really gets the credit.

Last edited by S.Peelman - on 26 December 2019

#11 BlazBlue Calamity Trigger

Every character in this game has a unique ability that is activated by pushing the special move button. The special move button works similair to a kick or punch button. Pushing any one of four directions plus the special move button will result in one of four different attacks. Sometimes more if there are air variants of moves. This opens the game up to a lot of creativity not seen in other fighting games. This is because in other fighting games you would need a unique input like quarter circle plus punch for each special move. But there are only so many of these inputs you can put into a game before special moves start firing off unintentionally. But on top of having a special move button there's also a bunch of these inputs as well. This let's the game have about double the special moves per character as any other fighting game. Also every fighter has their own unique power to use. The grappler uses magnets to pull enemies closer. The swordsman stocks power and then slashes away with devastating cuts. The catgirl bounces around the screen like a madman. The combos are easy to pull off, but the game is still highly technical, thanks to a shielding system. I never quite felt like the combos were so oppressive in this game that you were dead after three good combos. The animations are fantastic. Just look up Rachel's animations on Youtube. IMO this is the best of the Blazblue series, and other games in this series suffer from feature creep. In subsequent titles combos become too hard to pull off, the roster is too big, and the animations suffer. The sequels took a lot of good characters and completely changed how they work, while adding in other characters that are just bad copies of already existing characters. 



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

More clues:

4.  a) The developer who designed the combat system for this game wanted it to feel more intense and engaging than Fire Emblem.  Consequently, instead of each side going all at once, each character or monster has their own speed stat to determine when they act.
b) Even though this game was somewhat inspired by Fire Emblem, it released outside of Japan before any Fire Emblem game did.
c) This game is a spinoff from a popular game series, but the storyline is inspired by the War of the Roses.
d) Your best friend was long thought to be the hero in this war, but the game starts with a historian who recently found that you, the main protagonist, are the true hero.

3.  a) The combat system for this PC super hero game was inspired by Baldur's Gate.
b) Although this isn't really a Marvel game, the characters seem to pay homage to the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby Silver Age of comics.
c) This PC game probably broke what used to be known as the "Curse of the Super Hero Game" in that it was actually a really good super hero game you could play at home.  Two years later Spider-Man 2 released on PS2 and even further broke the "Curse of the Super Hero Game".
d)  Minute Man, Alchemiss, The Ant, and The Bullet are some of the many characters that you will recruit on your team.

2.  a)  The file size of this popular game is over 200 times larger than the file size of the previous entry in the series.
b) It's an RPG.
c)  It's on the PS1.

#4: Final Fantasy Tactics

#3: Freedom Force



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Cerebralbore101 said:
RingoGaSuki said:
#7 - Pokemon Emerald (GBA)
Released by Game Freak in 2005, no change in its placing since last year.

Emerald is easily the game I hold more nostalgia for than any other in history. It's music, region, Pokemon and gameplay are all second nature to me. I love every single piece of the game, and can play it with my eyes closed. Ruby and Sapphire were fantastic games, but Emerald added so much to them that improved them in a myriad of different ways. It is the perfect Pokemon game, and one of the few games I could play for eternity on repeat.

#6 - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Red/Blue Rescue Team (GBA/DS)
Released by Chunsoft in 2005, down one spot from last year.


Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team are a beautiful set of games. They're the first Pokemon games to truly put story and world exploration front and centre, and they absolutely nail it. They tell an epic adventure with a range of themes, from funny comedic moments to dark and horrifying ones. It tugs at your emotions in ways that I never thought a Pokemon game could, and its artstyle and soundtrack are perfect. The ost in particular is just outstanding - hours and hours of beautiful music. A truly underrated gem.

Down to my top 5, they're not hard to guess, but I'll leave a few hints :P

#5 - An epic RPG in 3 acts, about a band of friends coming together, being split, coming back together and saving the world whilst undergoing incredible personal growth. I wasn't quite done with all its content when I put it on this list, now that I am - it will be higher next year.

#4 - After escaping alien planet, little dude is sent back to go treasure hunting with help of carrot people.

I'm going to have to give this one a shot. The reviews for it back in the day were insanely harsh. But a lot of that had to do with people reviewing the DS version of the game and complaining that it was just a straight up GBA port. Also, a lot of Poke'mon fans reviewed this expecting Poke'mon. Instead they got a rogue-like dungeon crawler in an era when almost nobody knew wtf a Rogue-Like was. 

Yep. This, and Poke'mon Conquest are on my wanted list now. 

The way both Rescue Team and Explorers got trashed in reviews are the reason I don't read reviews. I was only 9 at the time but it was painfully obvious that they either hadn't played the games (the Gamespot reviewer even admitted that they didn't get 10 hours into a 50+ hour game!) or just didn't want anything that wasn't mainline Pokemon. You should definitely check Rescue Team, Explorers and Conquest out - the Pokemon spinoffs are actually better than the mainline games IMHO.



#10 Final Fantasy VI 

Many people credit Final Fantasy VII as the best game in the series, but FFVI does almost everything both before, and better than FFVII. The active time battle system that adds tension to turn based combat was there first. Epic cutscenes like the opera scene were done with excellent spritework, that holds up better than FFVII's CGI. There were over ten unique playable characters each with their own story arcs and questlines. The esper leveling system allowed you to give any character whatever moves or stats you wanted. Most games threaten to end the world, if you don't defeat the bad guys, but FFVI actually does end the world halfway through the game. Oh and did I mention you can suplex a ghost train in this game? 



#9 Chrono Trigger

One of the most important things, gave developers need to learn is that AGLs in games are bad. What are AGLs? Artificial Game Lengtheners (full credit to Dunkey for the acronym), are the parts of a game that are tedious and time consuming simply for the sake of lengthening a game. Oftentimes a game will be fun, but will only take ten to twenty hours to beat. For some reason development studios see that as unacceptable, so they use AGLs to spread the fun content out like too little butter over so much toast. I believe that the JRPG genre is one of the greatest things ever invented in this medium, but I also admit that most overstay their welcome by about fifty hours. The genius in Chrono Trigger is that it removes most of the standard AGLs from the genre leaving pure fun in it's wake. Random battles are gone. Turn based combat uses the speedy ATB system from FFVI. Enemies are placed and spaced out so that you fight them only enough times to hold your interest and no more. Chrono Trigger only takes about twenty to twentyfive hours to beat, but it's a breakneck rollercoaster ride of fun from start to finish. This game has excellent character designs from Dragonball's Akira Toriyama, and a perfect soundtrack by Yasunori Mitsuda. There's a really fun and interesting combo system built into the game, that feels natural. You can combine different attacks like a flame attack, and a sword attack to get a flaming sword attack (See the cover?). Multiple endings and a New Game + mode mean anybody that loves JRPGs should be in for a good 50 hours of completionist playtime. The original SNES cart still commands $80 or more despite DS and PS1 remakes existing. This is the JRPG that transcends hatred of JRPGs. Even if you absolutely hate the genre, you owe it to yourself to play this one. Yeah, it is that good.



Well, I fell way behind. Instead of trying to catch up, I'll just try to finish with my top 6

6. This game features a song with lyrics in Esperanto.
5. Often described as an offline MMORPG, when it released
4. I like this game beacause I'm a puppet