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The_Liquid_Laser on 07 November 2019

Just got a look at the top 30. BotW is now above Link's Awakening on the charts. I was told that Link's Awakening would eat into BotW's legs. So much for that happening. BotW is like the energizer bunny. It just keeps going and going....



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Agente42 on 07 November 2019
Marth said:
It's pretty clear that PS5 will be more expensive than Switch and PS4 / PS4 Pro at launch which almost guarantees a rocky start.
And they would need at least one launch title that goes well with the japanese audicence.

Nintendo showed that pretty well with the BotW, MK8D and Splatoon 2 combo in the first few months of the system.
Especially Splatoon carried a lot of early momentum.

I don't think either Monster Hunter World 2 or Dragon Quest 12 will be ready for launch.
A new Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts is also pretty much out of the question.
They will get ports in the best case but the selling power of late ports in Japan is pretty low.
Especially because the first batch of PS5 owners will be enthusiasts that probably already have a PS4 and the games.
The talks about backwards compability, while good for the consumer, will also make it even harder for the new console.

While I am confident that the PS5 will be a worldwide success, the japanese market will be pretty harsh.

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Agente42 on 07 November 2019
Agente42 said:
Marth said:
It's pretty clear that PS5 will be more expensive than Switch and PS4 / PS4 Pro at launch which almost guarantees a rocky start.
And they would need at least one launch title that goes well with the japanese audicence.

Nintendo showed that pretty well with the BotW, MK8D and Splatoon 2 combo in the first few months of the system.
Especially Splatoon carried a lot of early momentum.

I don't think either Monster Hunter World 2 or Dragon Quest 12 will be ready for launch.
A new Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts is also pretty much out of the question.
They will get ports in the best case but the selling power of late ports in Japan is pretty low.
Especially because the first batch of PS5 owners will be enthusiasts that probably already have a PS4 and the games.
The talks about backwards compability, while good for the consumer, will also make it even harder for the new console.

While I am confident that the PS5 will be a worldwide success, the japanese market will be pretty harsh.

Man, DQ 12 not  Sony proprietary. Neither Final Fantasy or Monster Hunter. Sony don't have one real exclusive japanese centric game. Capcom fours years to develop Monster Hunter for consoles. 

DQ 12 will be Switch exclusivity. The worse situation, Switch/Ps4. 



Agente42 on 07 November 2019
SwitchUP said:
Marth said:
It's pretty clear that PS5 will be more expensive than Switch and PS4 / PS4 Pro at launch which almost guarantees a rocky start.
And they would need at least one launch title that goes well with the japanese audicence.

Nintendo showed that pretty well with the BotW, MK8D and Splatoon 2 combo in the first few months of the system.
Especially Splatoon carried a lot of early momentum.

I don't think either Monster Hunter World 2 or Dragon Quest 12 will be ready for launch.
A new Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts is also pretty much out of the question.
They will get ports in the best case but the selling power of late ports in Japan is pretty low.
Especially because the first batch of PS5 owners will be enthusiasts that probably already have a PS4 and the games.
The talks about backwards compability, while good for the consumer, will also make it even harder for the new console.

While I am confident that the PS5 will be a worldwide success, the japanese market will be pretty harsh.

Well said. And 100% true. The ps5 will be doa in Japan.

 Not even a blip on the radar. It's all switch, all the time there. Sony can't challenge their dominance there. Now, Nintendo needs to get their ass in gear in the UK to challenge Sony there to make a real run at the title. 

Europe's market is not only UK. Nintendo needs to focus in Germany, France, and Spain. 

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TheBraveGallade on 07 November 2019

The reason PS4 sold at least this well is no real competition and Vita crossover factor combined. If a company wanted a decent global footing it was either 3ds or PS4. And thouse two were vastly different.
Now a company can just ignore the ps4, get slightly less sales abroad, and potentially save a bunch of time/money that would go into a port.



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curl-6 on 07 November 2019

PS5 will have its work cut out for it, but I don't think it's predetermined that it will perform poorly in Japan.

It'll still get most of the the big Japanese games to itself regardless of whether it makes sense to do so. Switch could sell 5 times as much as PS5 and devs like Crapcom would still favour PS5.

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Agente42 on 08 November 2019
curl-6 said:

PS5 will have its work cut out for it, but I don't think it's predetermined that it will perform poorly in Japan.

It'll still get most of the the big Japanese games to itself regardless of whether it makes sense to do so. Switch could sell 5 times as much as PS5 and devs like Capcom would still favour PS5.

Yeah. But Square Enix doesn't make the craziness of DQ XI again.  Dragon Quest will launch multiplatform, focus in plataform leader. 



Agente42 on 08 November 2019
The_Liquid_Laser said:
Just got a look at the top 30. BotW is now above Link's Awakening on the charts. I was told that Link's Awakening would eat into BotW's legs. So much for that happening. BotW is like the energizer bunny. It just keeps going and going....

One is a remake, another is one the best game of the decade. 

Last edited by Agente42 - on 08 November 2019

Louie on 08 November 2019

So, Ring Fit Adventure is following the trajectory we saw with many casual / mass market games during the Wii/DS era: Relatively slow start but strong sales for weeks afterwards due to word of mouth. According to Iwata back then, the casual games mostly started selling hardware around 6 weeks after their release if I remember correctly. That means Ring Fit Adventure could boost Switch hardware sales during the all-important holiday period.

And, as I've been saying since the Switch launched: Men aged 20 to 30 are not a big enough demographic to target. Nintendo needs children, women and older customers on board. That's why we are seeing Pokémon, Ring Fit, Brain Training and the Switch Lite being pushed by Nintendo so much. Only by catering to the mass market can the Switch sell in abundance of 100m units lifetime. And the Switch has the potential to do DS numbers. Nintendo just needs to play their cards right and make this an attractive device for mass market consumers.



The_Liquid_Laser on 08 November 2019
curl-6 said:

PS5 will have its work cut out for it, but I don't think it's predetermined that it will perform poorly in Japan.

It'll still get most of the the big Japanese games to itself regardless of whether it makes sense to do so. Switch could sell 5 times as much as PS5 and devs like Capcom would still favour PS5.

I don't know.  Do you really think the next Monster Hunter will be a PS5 exclusive?  I think it will either be Switch exclusive or a multi-plat with Switch getting a version.  Monster Hunter is still one of the most important franchises to Japan.  I can't see them leaving it off the Switch.



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