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Lol, it is a paradox. People working hard everyday are lazy and owe you.... you being a person who doesn't even want to work. Talk about being hypocritical. Enjoy though man, got to spend your time doing something I suppose.  



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First HD jump for the main series. They should started totally fresh and have none of the other Pokemon. Build this up as Phase 2 Pokemon, which each group after this utilizing Pokemon introduced in Sword/Shield and it's sequels. Then, after like 5 generations have passed, we can have a mega crossover Avengers style game with all 10+ generations of Pokemon. It would make all the old ones feel new again after not having played them for so long.



Chrkeller said:

Lol, it is a paradox. People working hard everyday are lazy and owe you.... you being a person who doesn't even want to work. Talk about being hypocritical. Enjoy though man, got to spend your time doing something I suppose.  

Doubling down on that desperate strawman, further proving you have no actual arguments.



I play most Pokemon games, and while I don't know exact numbers, it's usually the case that around 300 ~ 400 Pokemon can be obtained in a single game. The difference is that in the past there were ways to obtain them all in a single game. But has that always been the case? I remember when Ruby and Sapphire came out you could no longer trade with RBY and GSS.

Could GF be planning on releasing another main installment on the Switch which will be compatible with this one, and slowly all of the Pokemon will be obtainable. This would be a good reason to explain why not all of the most popular Pokemon are in this one game, as they want to distribute them evenly.

But overall, the disappearance of the National Dex is disappointing, but not unexpected, and 400 Pokemon is a solid amount for being within a single game. I doubt anyone truly expected more than this. But at the same time, those that are claiming to prefer having a lower amount are also full of themselves.

If you were expecting 600+ Pokemon, that would probably be a first. I'm more concerned with the MC of this game, and whether it's going to be good or not.



Honestly don't care. Still going to buy it and play it. Already caught them all once, was incredibly frustrating to X pokemon from some event that isn't in your country.



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trunkswd said:
That is disappointing. I've only ever played gen 1 with Red/ Blue/ Yellow and Let's Go Eevee. I was hoping to see all the Pokemon I've missed over the years. Although I guess it makes sense as IRL not all animals are found in every place on Earth.

This wasn't the standard though, every Pokemon game prior to Let's Go had all Pokemon in the game even if they weren't all catchable in the wild.

Mar1217 said:

Finally, a post with some objective values instead of the judgemental tantrum some are doing here.

That there's only 400 Pokemon in the game isn't an objective value? That this is less than a 13 year old Pokemon game is just a judgmental tantrum? Are you perhaps in denial? I think so!



Lonely_Dolphin said:
trunkswd said:
That is disappointing. I've only ever played gen 1 with Red/ Blue/ Yellow and Let's Go Eevee. I was hoping to see all the Pokemon I've missed over the years. Although I guess it makes sense as IRL not all animals are found in every place on Earth.

This wasn't the standard though, every Pokemon game prior to Let's Go had all Pokemon in the game even if they weren't all catchable in the wild.

Mar1217 said:

Finally, a post with some objective values instead of the judgemental tantrum some are doing here.

That there's only 400 Pokemon in the game isn't an objective value? That this is less than a 13 year old Pokemon game is just a judgmental tantrum? Are you perhaps in denial? I think so!

I barely get a quarter of 400 Pokemon in all of the main games I've played :P

I get some people are disappointed, but I think total amount of Pokemon is only part of the game. A significant part of it, sure, but not a determining factor on whether or not I buy it or not. Because there's more to the games than the total amount of Pokemon.

I've read some previews and most are pretty positive about the games. I'm looking forward to it.



shikamaru317 said:

Found an interesting Analysis of the Galar Pokedex:

Galar has the most returning Pokemon from Unova, a curious move considering that Unova was widely regarded as having some of the worst designs in the series. Gens 1-4 meanwhile got the shaft, being the bottom 4 in terms of returning Pokemon based on percentage of total new Pokemon from those gens. There is some speculation that this is because Gamefreak are planning to release Gen 4 remakes next, as the Sinnoh Pokedex contains all gen 4 Pokemon and a large number of gen 1-3 pokemon. 

Galar is heavily water type, with 60 Pokemon. Psychic, Grass, Ghost, and Ground also have high concentrations. Galar is light on Fire and Electric options, though the situation is nowhere near as bad as the fire type situation was in Diamond and Pearl, where there are only 11 fire types to choose from (5 of which were fully evolved). 

This graph is based on a survey of the most popular Pokemon done earlier this year that had over 50,000 responses.  As you can see, in spite of Gamefreak's claim that they would focus on the most popular pokemon moving forward due to the removal of the national dex, Galar actually has a heavy concentration of the least popular Pokemon, with over 40 pokemon each from the 601-700 and 700+ ranges returning. Meanwhile, just over 70 Pokemon from the top 200 most popular are returning.



Kai_Mao said:

I barely get a quarter of 400 Pokemon in all of the main games I've played :P

I get some people are disappointed, but I think total amount of Pokemon is only part of the game. A significant part of it, sure, but not a determining factor on whether or not I buy it or not. Because there's more to the games than the total amount of Pokemon.

I've read some previews and most are pretty positive about the games. I'm looking forward to it.

So you'd buy the game even if it had no Pokemon in it!? You're paying more for less but surely you wouldn't pay more for absolutely nothing. xD

It's silly to try and downplay what a big deal this is, it's the freakin namesake. Literally every facet of the games involve Pokemon, without them there is no game.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
Kai_Mao said:

I barely get a quarter of 400 Pokemon in all of the main games I've played :P

I get some people are disappointed, but I think total amount of Pokemon is only part of the game. A significant part of it, sure, but not a determining factor on whether or not I buy it or not. Because there's more to the games than the total amount of Pokemon.

I've read some previews and most are pretty positive about the games. I'm looking forward to it.

So you'd buy the game even if it had no Pokemon in it!? You're paying more for less but surely you wouldn't pay more for absolutely nothing. xD

It's silly to try and downplay what a big deal this is, it's the freakin namesake. Literally every facet of the games involve Pokemon, without them there is no game.

Diminishing returns.  At a certain point, when there are more Pokemon than I'll ever actually use or even catch, the additional Pokemon will add nothing to my enjoyment.  There are also potential metagame benefits to having a smaller number of Pokemon.