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I'm voting tomorrow but I'm undecided still. Voted NDP last time but they lost in my riding (as they did in many ridings!). But they seem to be in better shape now and should make some gains. I'm thinking the Greens will gain as well. The conservatives, bloc, and ppc are not very competitive in my area. I wouldn't mind the liberals too much but trudeau burnt too many bridges. If I had to predict, it will be a minority conservative or liberal government. A coalition isn't out of the question either but we haven't seen one on a long time.



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Going Conservative even if Andy isn’t who I would have chose to be PM, they had several other better contenders with some strong women that I found better suited then Andy. Liberals, NDP will destroy the economy and think more tax will fix everything. They are financial disasters who will push business and tech further out of our country. greens are crazy with grand ideas and no real plan to implement them.



Trudeau needs to go, but the replacements aren't exactly compelling no matter how you slice them. It'll be Scheer or Bernier for me. Probably Scheer because Ontario already has Conservative Gov and more get's done if the party is the same throughout. Mind you allowing that for too long isn't good either. I also think Trump will be much more friendly to a Conservative Federal Gov here.

I'd guess the Conservatives will take power. Don't think it will be a landslide but also don't think it'll be a close call. The Ontario poles for Ford didn't make it look like he was going to run away with it, yet he steamrolled Liberal Premier Wynne, who unlike her name, lost. Horwath's New Democrats did ok in that election surprisingly, but I don't see the NDP having that sort of backing in this Federal election.



I think the same thing's going to happen as happened with Trudeau's father - he'll lose his majority, but be able to fall back on the NDP (and/or the Greens, if they win enough seats to make any difference) to stay in power. Scheer might get close to, even slightly ahead of him in seat counts, but the Bloc aren't going to prop up a Conservative government, and unless the polls are hilariously wrong the People's Party won't win enough seats, if they even win any at all, to be of any help.



It's OK, Canada! Your country won't collapse under a minority government; this happens regularly in normal countries.

Besides, it shouldn't be anything new for you guys, Justin Trudeau has been dressing like a minority for years now.

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OlfinBedwere said:

I think the same thing's going to happen as happened with Trudeau's father - he'll lose his majority, but be able to fall back on the NDP (and/or the Greens, if they win enough seats to make any difference) to stay in power. Scheer might get close to, even slightly ahead of him in seat counts, but the Bloc aren't going to prop up a Conservative government, and unless the polls are hilariously wrong the People's Party won't win enough seats, if they even win any at all, to be of any help.

Bang on!



Is it the usual populist left establishment versus the comically evil and incompetent right? If not, I might as well follow the boring German elections.



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While the Conservatives were probably hurt by things outside of their control - Doug Ford tanking their popularity in Ontario, the Bloc's unexpected comeback - I think Andrew Scheer really screwed this campaign up. It often felt like he was more concerned with neutralizing the People's Party than tackling the Liberals head-on.

Gotta feel for the NDP as well. When you look past the fact that they're now able to prop up Trudeau and probably demand the odd concession from him, they're basically back to where they were pre-Jack Layton.



So while I was right about Scheer being more popular overall, not by a lot though, it didn't turn out like I thought it would. I was focusing too much on the conservative Provincial wave that Canada and many other countries have seen recently, and not the candidates and their specific platforms this time around. While my county voted overwhelmingly conservative, I actually didn't end up voting. While I really dislike Trudeau as a whole, I don't like Scheer either as a person. He comes off as fake and a little stuck up, which I also get from Trudeau. Scheer's messaging certainly wasn't great either. As for Bernier, he's somewhat likable but still comes off as weak in general, and I didn't agree with some of his platform. So it's not all that surprising in the end that Scheer couldn't pull it off.

At least the libs are stuck with a minority, and with the way Singh talks and went after Trudeau, he and his party would look quite hypocritical to cozy up now. It's politics though so being hypocritical won't matter much if Singh thinks backing Trudeau will help him. Typically this situation leads to a lot of bickering and little getting accomplished, which with Trudeau still in power, I'm fine with.

I also find it hilarious that Scheer won the popular vote, yet it's extremely quiet in terms of how he should have won and how Trudeau must be an illegitimate P.M.   lol

That's Canada vs America for you though.



EricHiggin said:

So while I was right about Scheer being more popular overall, not by a lot though, it didn't turn out like I thought it would. I was focusing too much on the conservative Provincial wave that Canada and many other countries have seen recently, and not the candidates and their specific platforms this time around. While my county voted overwhelmingly conservative, I actually didn't end up voting. While I really dislike Trudeau as a whole, I don't like Scheer either as a person. He comes off as fake and a little stuck up, which I also get from Trudeau. Scheer's messaging certainly wasn't great either. As for Bernier, he's somewhat likable but still comes off as weak in general, and I didn't agree with some of his platform. So it's not all that surprising in the end that Scheer couldn't pull it off.

At least the libs are stuck with a minority, and with the way Singh talks and went after Trudeau, he and his party would look quite hypocritical to cozy up now. It's politics though so being hypocritical won't matter much if Singh thinks backing Trudeau will help him. Typically this situation leads to a lot of bickering and little getting accomplished, which with Trudeau still in power, I'm fine with.

I also find it hilarious that Scheer won the popular vote, yet it's extremely quiet in terms of how he should have won and how Trudeau must be an illegitimate P.M.   lol

That's Canada vs America for you though.

I'll break the silence. This old fashioned riding system has no place in modern times.

Quite a difference when every vote has the same weight. Based on actual percentages:
Since the bigger parties benefit from the riding system, it won't change.

LIB 157 vs 112
CON 121 vs 116
BQ 32 vs 26
NDP 24 vs 54
GRN 3 vs 22
OTH 1 vs 3
PPC 0 vs 5