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Jigsawx1 on 14 October 2019
curl-6 said:
Jigsawx1 said:

The Switch is at 38 million at the moment why are you so sure that they will reach 100 million? i think after the release of xbox scarlett and ps5 switch sales will drop alot.

Do you still think Switch won't outsell the Xbox One in lifetime sales, as you insisted back in 2017/2018?

Do you still think switch outsold the X1 by holiday 2017 what it did not?

No i think if it will sell 11m more units this year it will outsell x1 by dec 2018 if not something around the 1st quarter in 2019



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curl-6 on 14 October 2019
Jigsawx1 said:
curl-6 said:

Do you still think Switch won't outsell the Xbox One in lifetime sales, as you insisted back in 2017/2018?

Do you still think switch outsold the X1 by holiday 2017 what it did not?

No i think if it will sell 11m more units this year it will outsell x1 by dec 2018 if not something around the 1st quarter in 2019

How can I "still" think something I never once claimed?



DonFerrari on 15 October 2019
curl-6 said:
Jigsawx1 said:

Do you still think switch outsold the X1 by holiday 2017 what it did not?

No i think if it will sell 11m more units this year it will outsell x1 by dec 2018 if not something around the 1st quarter in 2019

How can I "still" think something I never once claimed?

Or how would you think Switch will outsell X1 2 years ago when it still haven't today? Doesn't even makes sense.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Agente42 on 15 October 2019
Hiku said:
Jigsawx1 said:

Do you still think switch outsold the X1 by holiday 2017 what it did not?

Curl may not be an industry analyst, but I find it very hard to believe he claimed that Switch would sell over 35 million units in 9 months...

Holy God!

Neither DS accomplished that.



curl-6 on 15 October 2019

What I said back in 2017 was that Switch would outsell the Xbox One eventually.

At the time I'm pretty sure I estimated it would happen sometime in 2020, so it looks like I may indeed have been off there. At the time I didn't expect Xbone would slow down this fast and thought it'd settle around 55-60 million lifetime.



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DonFerrari on 16 October 2019
curl-6 said:

What I said back in 2017 was that Switch would outsell the Xbox One eventually.

At the time I'm pretty sure I estimated it would happen sometime in 2020, so it looks like I may indeed have been off there. At the time I didn't expect Xbone would slow down this fast and thought it'd settle around 55-60 million lifetime.

Either that or that Switch on the 2017 would outsell X1 2017 (either full year or holiday), anything else would be delusional and even though I may disagree from you on several times no comment from you I remember being delusional.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

couchmonkey on 16 October 2019

Today on Good Morning VGChartz: Are Xbox One sales fine, or fine + 9%?



curl-6 on 16 October 2019
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

What I said back in 2017 was that Switch would outsell the Xbox One eventually.

At the time I'm pretty sure I estimated it would happen sometime in 2020, so it looks like I may indeed have been off there. At the time I didn't expect Xbone would slow down this fast and thought it'd settle around 55-60 million lifetime.

Either that or that Switch on the 2017 would outsell X1 2017 (either full year or holiday), anything else would be delusional and even though I may disagree from you on several times no comment from you I remember being delusional.

Haha cheers man. When it comes to predictions I am almost always conservative as I'd rather err on the side of caution.



DonFerrari on 17 October 2019
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

Either that or that Switch on the 2017 would outsell X1 2017 (either full year or holiday), anything else would be delusional and even though I may disagree from you on several times no comment from you I remember being delusional.

Haha cheers man. When it comes to predictions I am almost always conservative as I'd rather err on the side of caution.

On that I would say I sit similar (may even be a reason why people think I'm hating when putting down some predictions).

I hoped and thought there were a small chance PS4 could achieve PS2 numbers (very very very slim chances) but my predictions on the start of the gen were probably around 100-110M on the safe side and 130M as upper limit.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

ZhugeEX on 17 October 2019

1. The number is from an IDC report a few months back that tracks console shipments through June 30th 2019.
2. The report states that XB1 is at 46.9m and PS4 is at 99.8m.
3. The PS4 number is based on shipment data that Sony releases each quarter. In this case Sony later released that the total was 100m, so close enough to IDC's estimate.
4. The XB1 number is based on market data that IDC has access to, such as NPD/GfK and they use this to estimate shipments.
5. Microsoft doesn't release numbers to confirm this, so who knows how accurate it is. It does seem to be in the general ballpark of most analyst estimates.