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Pemalite said:

14.73% of polled Steam users have a 720P class panel.
That is widespread enough that it matters, that is more than 4k or 1440P users to put things into perspective.

14.73% against 90~ million monthly active users is 12.6~ million monthly users with a 720P~ class panel, that's not insignificant.

Sources:
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
https://www.pcgamer.com/au/steam-now-has-90-million-monthly-users/

Again, 720p =/= ~720p 'class' ... 

Ironic how you're claiming I'm the one shifting goal posts ... 

Pemalite said:

Exactly my damn point. - But it takes awhile for steam statistics to represent change in hardware, people don't throw away their old PC because a new GPU got released you know.

Take a look at the GPU page, there are users still running Radeon 7800~ class GPU's.

@Bold AFAIC, Steam statistics only lag the market by about 5 years maximum so it's fairly representative of the HW being sold in the market ... 

HD 7800 series only represent 0.3% of all steam users ... 

Pemalite said:

Well no. I don't have to do a thing.
Newegg already represented a large amount of 720P panels still being sold. And that is just today.

The fact that portable systems also get bundled with 720P panels doesn't negate that and would also still be a demographic who might be interested in 720P benchmarks anyway, making your argument redundant.

Yes you absolutely do because 720p CPU benchmarks are irrelevant in the high-end desktop space ... 

If I am to extrapolate the % of desktop steam users by the # monitors sold on newegg with that specific resolution then 768p would probably account for no more than 1% of all desktop steam users and the rest would probably be portable/laptop users ...

Pemalite said:

Are you paying attention? CPU. Not GPU. Some games are going to be more CPU limited than others, especially strategy titles.

You still aren't paying attention to the benchmarks ... 

I have yet to see a case where Intel's CPU gaming performance is actually an advantage for low-end/portable gaming systems and even in strategy games like you say ... 

In modern strategy games such as Ashes or Civ VI, Ryzen with Vega graphics are still running circles around pure Intel parts ... 

Pemalite said:

Almost 15% of the Steam userbase.

With the vast majority of them being on portable systems like laptops ...

Who really cares about CPU performance at that point when just about any modern quad core is good enough ? 

Pemalite said:

Doesn't matter how many people there are, it is still useful to some, don't go shifting the goal post.

Don't go creating a straw man ... 



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Yep this gen is the time to jump in if you're on the fence about Ryzen. The 1st and 2nd gen were good but still no match for Intel for purely gaming performance.

The 3600/X is the best bang for the buck CPU imo. 3700/3900 if you have funds, and have make use of all 8/12 cores 16/24 threads.



I'll provide some raw data since everyone likes to compare. Granted I do not own the video but it shows exactly what I'm talking about when in comes to speed, and power. When game developers start optimizing for AMD Ryzen there will finally be good competition.

Talking about competition. Is Intel panicking? They just slashed i9-10980XE by 50%, $979. Makes me wonder why people are spending so much cash. Kudos to AMD for bringing back competition. Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cascade-lake-x-pricing-availability-launch-specifications-10th-generation,40526.html

Intel vs AMD 2019 -- [ 3900X vs 9900K ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mYWWY9uYU8

TLDW: The R9 have a better IPC than the i9 9900k, and the power consumption for Intel shows it is a full generation behind. i9 9900k may have slight advantage in games, but overall R9 is a more powerful CPU.



CPU: Ryzen 7950X
GPU: MSI 4090 SUPRIM X 24G
Motherboard: MSI MEG X670E GODLIKE
RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 32GB DDR5
SSD: Kingston FURY Renegade 4TB
Gaming Console: PLAYSTATION 5
deskpro2k3 said:

I'll provide some raw data since everyone likes to compare. Granted I do not own the video but it shows exactly what I'm talking about when in comes to speed, and power. When game developers start optimizing for AMD Ryzen there will finally be good competition.

Talking about competition. Is Intel panicking? They just slashed i9-10980XE by 50%, $979. Makes me wonder why people are spending so much cash. Kudos to AMD for bringing back competition. Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cascade-lake-x-pricing-availability-launch-specifications-10th-generation,40526.html

Intel vs AMD 2019 -- [ 3900X vs 9900K ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mYWWY9uYU8

TLDW: The R9 have a better IPC than the i9 9900k, and the power consumption for Intel shows it is a full generation behind. i9 9900k may have slight advantage in games, but overall R9 is a more powerful CPU.

Also better for editing, by a country mile, and that's one of my main reasons I'm going Ryzen with my next build. I'd rather have my projects rendered in around 20 mins or less, than 40 mins to an hour or more. 



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Sweet. Am looking into Ryzen 5 and i5. Let's see how things go.