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Chrkeller said:

Look at it this way, jumping into disk 3 of FFVII without playing the first two disks would be odd. It wouldn't work.  Same with Star Wars... watching jedi without background wouldnt work.  hence the term episodes. Because the first pieces are required to understand the latter pieces.

Uncharted 2 doesn't require uncharted 1 to understand 99% of the story.

Yakuza 6 doesn't need any of the other 6 before it for you to understand that game. But they put a summary of all the others for you to recap or at least have better ambience.

So if they make 3 full titles of FFVII with each being fully understandable within itself and with recaps to tie down all would have what you want.

After you play the remake them your conclusions may be right. You are coming from what you played to say it can't be done while you would need to see what was done to determine if it's possible to understand any of them alone.



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Chrkeller said:
DonFerrari said:

If the how many parts of FF VII remake tells each a complete story you wouldn't now without knowing the original.

What to say the 6 Uncharted (Golden Abyss and Lost Legacy are also part) isn't a single story broken down to each game?

You may have played FF VII 100 times, you haven't played the remake to know if it will or not be a full story on the first part. Also plenty of games have been unfinished the way they release but aren't considered episoidic.

If the game is 1-4h by all means call it an episode, but if it is 12-40h it is well within industry average so not an episode to keep clean on how usually they are called.

True, but I know the original inside out.  

Because I have played most of the Uncharted games.  The story is completed within each.  Midgar isn't a complete story, it is just the beginning, again I've played FFVII.  When Cloud (and company) depart from Midgar, there is no clarity around what exactly is going on.  Cloud's background hasn't even been developed.    

It won't be a full story.  Many characters won't even be introduced within the Midgar piece.  We have all played FFVII, we know what the full story is and it is more than Midgar.  Especially as it pertains to Cloud's character development.  

Xenosaga says hi.  Also Square themselves have called FFVII episodes.  What I personally find amusing is the anti episode agenda.  FFVII being episodes may not be a bad thing.  It could turn out to be one of the most impressive games to date.  I am not sure why people view episodes as a negative.  A full game is being remasters via multiple parts...  episodes.  Really it is that simple.  

I don't get all the negativity surrounding episodes either. I personally don't like it because I want to continue playing the game from begging to end. Which is why I'm just going to wait for all the episodes to come out and boom problem solved.



I'm not gonna be playing this game.

I'm a huge fan of the series up until X. But I really hate western RPGs and "Battle System" of these western games that SE is trying to go after. For instance, I don't only think Final Fantasy XII is a terrible FF game. It's one of the worst, least fun games of all time.

I've had more fun with Tomb Raider AoD, which was a buggy mess but still satisfying. FFXII, XIII, XIV and all those with a Western RPG "Battle" System have been absolute garbage, and I will never buy one of these games again. I want a Final Fantasy VII Remake that plays like the classic. As it is, I have zero interest in this awful westernized remake.



Azelover said:

I'm not gonna be playing this game.

I'm a huge fan of the series up until X. But I really hate western RPGs and "Battle System" of these western games that SE is trying to go after. For instance, I don't only think Final Fantasy XII is a terrible FF game. It's one of the worst, least fun games of all time.

I've had more fun with Tomb Raider AoD, which was a buggy mess but still satisfying. FFXII, XIII, XIV and all those with a Western RPG "Battle" System have been absolute garbage, and I will never buy one of these games again. I want a Final Fantasy VII Remake that plays like the classic. As it is, I have zero interest in this awful westernized remake.

By westernized, you obviously mean real-time. A shallow way to look at japanese JRPG games, considering real-time action RPGs existed long before the games you mentioned (the Mana and the Tales of series for example) and as far as I know, no other game had a battle system like the gambit system from FF XII when it came out, so it’s hardly a “westernized” battle system.



Azelover said:

I'm not gonna be playing this game.

I'm a huge fan of the series up until X. But I really hate western RPGs and "Battle System" of these western games that SE is trying to go after. For instance, I don't only think Final Fantasy XII is a terrible FF game. It's one of the worst, least fun games of all time.

I've had more fun with Tomb Raider AoD, which was a buggy mess but still satisfying. FFXII, XIII, XIV and all those with a Western RPG "Battle" System have been absolute garbage, and I will never buy one of these games again. I want a Final Fantasy VII Remake that plays like the classic. As it is, I have zero interest in this awful westernized remake.

Final Fantasy XIII is definitely not a western style battle system lol. You should go back and look at the game, it's basically turn based battles. 



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think-man said:

As the title says, i just played the FFVII remake demo at Gamescom, I was super impressed, judging by what i played, this is going to be one hell of a game!!

Few points: game ran well, combat was deep and satisfying, characters interacting felt natural. 

How does Gamescom work? Were you invited or did you buy a ticket?



think-man said:

As the title says, i just played the FFVII remake demo at Gamescom, I was super impressed, judging by what i played, this is going to be one hell of a game!!

Few points: game ran well, combat was deep and satisfying, characters interacting felt natural. 

That's awesome dude! Enjoy Cologne.

Too bad the thread got derailed on incredibly meaningless semantics, usually FF7 threads can become interesting :)

Although the mentioning of Xenosaga does bring a little bit of joy to my heart. 



Mystro-Sama said:
think-man said:

As the title says, i just played the FFVII remake demo at Gamescom, I was super impressed, judging by what i played, this is going to be one hell of a game!!

Few points: game ran well, combat was deep and satisfying, characters interacting felt natural. 

How does Gamescom work? Were you invited or did you buy a ticket?

You buy a ticket, was super cheap aswell. Like 10 euros :)



weaveworld said:
think-man said:

As the title says, i just played the FFVII remake demo at Gamescom, I was super impressed, judging by what i played, this is going to be one hell of a game!!

Few points: game ran well, combat was deep and satisfying, characters interacting felt natural. 

That's awesome dude! Enjoy Cologne.

Too bad the thread got derailed on incredibly meaningless semantics, usually FF7 threads can become interesting :)

Although the mentioning of Xenosaga does bring a little bit of joy to my heart. 

This is my 4th Gamescom, I've made a habit of going every year since moving to the Netherlands. Only a 2.5 hour drive to Gamescom from my house, the GF and I always have a good time :)



think-man said:
weaveworld said:

That's awesome dude! Enjoy Cologne.

Too bad the thread got derailed on incredibly meaningless semantics, usually FF7 threads can become interesting :)

Although the mentioning of Xenosaga does bring a little bit of joy to my heart. 

This is my 4th Gamescom, I've made a habit of going every year since moving to the Netherlands. Only a 2.5 hour drive to Gamescom from my house, the GF and I always have a good time :)

That's a healthy tradition! It's a 2h drive for me but I only went there in '09. I suppose things might have changed a little but good times nonetheless, playing Uncharted 2 as a demo and looking at the first slim ps3's. And having Kölsch und bratwurst of course.