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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Upgraded Switch model announced: Same price, battery life of 4.5 to 9 hours - Launches in August (Americas, Japan) and September (Others)

The_Liquid_Laser said:
RolStoppable said:

This isn't even on the magnitude of DS to DS Lite. It's a very minor change because the console still looks the same and the only noteworthy difference is longer battery life.

The "Switch Pro" idea is the result of people believing that Nintendo will follow Sony and Microsoft, and willfully ignoring the explicit statement of the original rumor that what is in the works is not a Pro model. Perhaps some people just used "Pro" because it's short and has a nice ring to it, but eventually virtually everyone was convinced that there is an actual Pro in the works.

I agree.  The "Switch Pro" narrative is essentially the same as the "Wii HD" narrative that went around during the Wii's lifetime.  People kept insisting that Wii needed better visuals to compete.  Obviously it didn't.  Switch also doesn't need better visuals to compete.  Switch isn't getting a visual upgrade until it releases it's true successor around 2023 or so.  It's the same old story and people still fall for it.

In hindsight, I bet Nintendo would have released a "Wii HD", not doing so was a mistake seeing as how Wii sales started to decline badly year over year after 2009. 

And don't give me "well there were no games!", there were plenty, Mario Galaxy 2, Zelda: Skyward Sword, Just Dance series taking off, Guitar Hero, DKC, GoldenEye, S&P, Kirby, Xenoblade, not to mention NSMBU and Wii Sports Resort should have been long tail sellers capable of carrying hardware sales for a few years. 

Waiting until 2012 to release the Wii successor was clearly way too long and by then brand momentum had fizzled out. Granted that was probably going to happen to some extent anyway with motion gaming being a fad, but Wii HD around holiday 2009/1st half 2010 probably would've served Nintendo a hell of a lot better than waiting until freaking fall 2012 when no one gave a crap about anything Wii related anymore. 



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Chrkeller said:

To a certain degree I find battery life irrelevant, on a personal side. When I travel with the kids they plug the Switch into a USB port readily available in any new car, battery last all day.

Thats risky due to the weird power draws the Switch has.  I personally use an anker battery pack as it was specifically tuned to what the Switch needs.  Nintendo did not follow USB-C standards, like the ports in you car, and you may be playing with fire.  It is the whole reason 3rd party docks were bricking Switches.

Just some friendly advice.



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The real question about this update, is how it'll perform docked. Will it take advantage of the added power mentioned here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=240484&page=1#43 ?

Any boost that gets it closer to XB1/PS4 (consoles that won't go away anytime soon) is important.

I still think there will be a new switch XL with a 1080p screen & similar battery life to the current switch. Guessing Switch 2 is a '23 release.

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Thats hot.



Shiken said:
Chrkeller said:

To a certain degree I find battery life irrelevant, on a personal side. When I travel with the kids they plug the Switch into a USB port readily available in any new car, battery last all day.

Thats risky due to the weird power draws the Switch has.  I personally use an anker battery pack as it was specifically tuned to what the Switch needs.  Nintendo did not follow USB-C standards, like the ports in you car, and you may be playing with fire.  It is the whole reason 3rd party docks were bricking Switches.

Just some friendly advice.

Interesting to note, thanks.  We haven't had a problem to date, but something to look into.



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Shiken said:
Chrkeller said:

To a certain degree I find battery life irrelevant, on a personal side. When I travel with the kids they plug the Switch into a USB port readily available in any new car, battery last all day.

Thats risky due to the weird power draws the Switch has.  I personally use an anker battery pack as it was specifically tuned to what the Switch needs.  Nintendo did not follow USB-C standards, like the ports in you car, and you may be playing with fire.  It is the whole reason 3rd party docks were bricking Switches.

Just some friendly advice.

Only 3rd party docks switching to the more stressing TV-mode are problematic.

Recharging in portable mode is safe (as far as I know)



Well, I guess I'll be getting a Switch until after mid-August.



Eh, I'll stick with my original launch model for now and may upgrade when the time and price is right.

Also, to the people who are thinking Switch 2 will launch in before 2023...

Let's break it down.

The 3DS had 6 full years on the market before the Switch came out (because the Switch is a successor to the 3DS as well, no matter what Nintendo says.) And right now, the Switch is outpacing the 3DS in sales and that pace is only going to get bigger and bigger. Eventually, the Switch will blow the 3DS out of the water in lifetime sales. Whatever the 3DS' final total ends up being, add 20 million to it and that's the MINIMUM of what the Switch will sell in its lifetime. Why would Nintendo make the extremely stupid and boneheaded decision to cut the Switch's life cycle short when it has far stronger sales momentum and software support than the 3DS ever had? March 2023 should be the absolute earliest Switch 2 will launch, since the would be a full 6 year cycle for Switch 1. Anything earlier than that is just ludicrous.



Nintendo seems to be going all out this year. Switch Lite, Upgraded Dockable Switch, and a ton of games.



PAOerfulone said:

Eh, I'll stick with my original launch model for now and may upgrade when the time and price is right.

Also, to the people who are thinking Switch 2 will launch in before 2023...

Let's break it down.

The 3DS had 6 full years on the market before the Switch came out (because the Switch is a successor to the 3DS as well, no matter what Nintendo says.) And right now, the Switch is outpacing the 3DS in sales and that pace is only going to get bigger and bigger. Eventually, the Switch will blow the 3DS out of the water in lifetime sales. Whatever the 3DS' final total ends up being, add 20 million to it and that's the MINIMUM of what the Switch will sell in its lifetime. Why would Nintendo make the extremely stupid and boneheaded decision to cut the Switch's life cycle short when it has far stronger sales momentum and software support than the 3DS ever had? March 2023 should be the absolute earliest Switch 2 will launch, since the would be a full 6 year cycle for Switch 1. Anything earlier than that is just ludicrous.

What you're not really factoring in to that is 3DS sales were pretty piss poor by year 4/5. Nintendo's been able to skirt that issue usually by having two hardware systems so that when one is in a down cycle like that they at least have some sales coming from elsewhere. 

I don't think Nintendo is cool with having low sales like that towards the end of the life cycle especially if Switch is basically their only system. 

6 year cycles are stupid for Nintendo, especially when they basically use up most of their AAA IP by year 3 ... so you have 3 years of basically sequels that aren't going to bring in huge new waves of audiences because the predacessor already did that (guess what ... BOTW2 won't sell as many systems as BOTW did in part because BOTW is so successful at selling and bringing in people who would be interested in a game like that).