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JRPGfan on 08 May 2019
Dulfite said:
konnichiwa said:

Well those companies are also the ones that don't come close to making a game that sells like Skyrim. That's basically the issue, one group says Skyrim was so unplayable while others would name it one of the best games of all times. 

I believe the games that were compared to, engine and bug wise earlier in the thread, were Red Dead Redemption 2 and Zero Dawn: Horizon, if I understood people's letter's correctly.

RDR2, according to VGC, is just under 20 million copies sold.

H:ZD is just under 6 million copies sold.

Skyrim is at 26 million copies sold, which is fantastic, but not much better than RDR2 has done so far, and Skyrim has been out for a long time now and this is counting remastered versions as well as VR and Switch release. The original Skyrim games, which is probably a lot more fair to compare to, were at 16.52 million if we are including Switch, and just 15.37 million if we are just counting 360/ps3. I suspect RDR2 will be closer to 30 million when its all said and done, and H:ZD to be at least 7-8 million, so Skyrim is basically right between them but certainly not blowing either of them out.

Back in March (2019), we got offical word that Horizon Zero Dawn was "well" over 10m by then (sold through).

Its not like HZD wont sell anymore the next few years either.
Plus I suspect with backwards compatability, that when HZD2 releases on the PS5, you ll see a surge of people buying the 1st game again.



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Dulfite on 08 May 2019
Wyrdness said:
Dulfite said:

I believe the games that were compared to, engine and bug wise earlier in the thread, were Red Dead Redemption 2 and Zero Dawn: Horizon, if I understood people's letter's correctly.

RDR2, according to VGC, is just under 20 million copies sold.

H:ZD is just under 6 million copies sold.

Skyrim is at 26 million copies sold, which is fantastic, but not much better than RDR2 has done so far, and Skyrim has been out for a long time now and this is counting remastered versions as well as VR and Switch release. The original Skyrim games, which is probably a lot more fair to compare to, were at 16.52 million if we are including Switch, and just 15.37 million if we are just counting 360/ps3. I suspect RDR2 will be closer to 30 million when its all said and done, and H:ZD to be at least 7-8 million, so Skyrim is basically right between them but certainly not blowing either of them out.

Pretty sure HZD has crossed the 10m barrier at least I recall a thread here on that topic.

Again, just going off VGC numbers when you look up each game individually.



Dulfite on 08 May 2019
JRPGfan said:
Dulfite said:

I believe the games that were compared to, engine and bug wise earlier in the thread, were Red Dead Redemption 2 and Zero Dawn: Horizon, if I understood people's letter's correctly.

RDR2, according to VGC, is just under 20 million copies sold.

H:ZD is just under 6 million copies sold.

Skyrim is at 26 million copies sold, which is fantastic, but not much better than RDR2 has done so far, and Skyrim has been out for a long time now and this is counting remastered versions as well as VR and Switch release. The original Skyrim games, which is probably a lot more fair to compare to, were at 16.52 million if we are including Switch, and just 15.37 million if we are just counting 360/ps3. I suspect RDR2 will be closer to 30 million when its all said and done, and H:ZD to be at least 7-8 million, so Skyrim is basically right between them but certainly not blowing either of them out.

Back in March (2019), we got offical word that Horizon Zero Dawn was "well" over 10m by then (sold through).

Its not like HZD wont sell anymore the next few years either.
Plus I suspect with backwards compatability, that when HZD2 releases on the PS5, you ll see a surge of people buying the 1st game again.

Rather than digging through articles to find latest official numbers, I simply used the numbers in the VGC database, which aren't updated I guess. That being said, I agree that the game and RDR2 will continue to sell lots next generation, therefore making Skyrim not seem like it sells out of this world.



Dulfite on 08 May 2019
Marth said:
Dulfite said:

Rather than digging through articles to find latest official numbers, I simply used the numbers in the VGC database, which aren't updated I guess. That being said, I agree that the game and RDR2 will continue to sell lots next generation, therefore making Skyrim not seem like it sells out of this world.

The VGC shipment numbers are as up to date as they can be and its currently at 10M. We don't deal with vague statements like "well over" because it could mean pretty much anything. If you click on the number on the front page it even links to the official source.

It will get updated as soon as there is another official statement with a concrete number attached.

Oh I completely understand that, I was simply responding to the people saying the numbers I was putting up were different than the officially confirmed ones. Really, it isn't even about the numbers at this point. They are all in the same ballpark of each other, all three games, or at least will be in the next few years, which was the point I was trying to ultimately make.