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KLXVER said:
They won by not trying to fix something that wasn't broke.

Absolutely agree with this, they built and maintained what the mainstream console gamers wanted and it paid off. Plus, they've had a slew of 1st party gems this gen, and also focused on solidifying their reputation as a company with a vested interest in keeping single player alive and well, with great results. I remember referring to Sony as complacent in their design choices, which I very much stand by, but it has been brilliant business. A little boring though? Sure.

Add to the mix that MS really dropped ball from the beginning, mandatory Kinect was among the biggest mistakes they've made since they joined the console race many years ago. Wii U falling flat and the Switch mostly selling to a different audience, and you have a powerful mix of circumstances to help them.



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StokedUp said:
The Forbes artical makes them sound a bit salty to be honest. Microsoft wanted to do something that most console gamers don't want. Most console gamers just want to sit down with controller and play games. It's simple, it effective and it's not broken. Sony knows this and stuck to it and they should do exactly the same again. Let's not forget they put so much into bringing out AAAgames again which helps.

This. Salty, indeed. Firstly, the Kinect and cable thing weren't confusing at all. People just didn't give a shit about their console being tied into outdated tech and gaming fads.  Secondly, gamers hated the always online BS, which would have moved to all digital if it was successful, that MS was trying to shove down gamers throats.  Thirdly....

Sony may have made a more traditional console, but it wasn't boring.  The Share button was a huge innovation, which lends itself to Twitch and Youtube gamers. MS didn't even expect that and had to quickly throw it into their console. The DS controller got a slight makeover that was widely praised. And, of course, Sony brought the most important thing. Games, games, games.  The PS4 has a much larger library than the XBO, with many more highly rated and sought after exclusives.  MS stuck to their MO, great support at the beginning that peters out in the 2nd half the gen. While Sony kept to theirs, pumping out quality exclusives throughout the gen.

Edit: And I don't want to leave out PSVR, another thing Sony brought that was innovative.  It will be, by far, the bestselling VR kit and holds promise with the upcoming upgrade, which is rumored to be wireless.

Put simply, Sony had features and games gamers wanted, while MS slapped them in the face at the beginning of the gen, with DRM, and at the end, with a drought of exclusives. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 21 April 2019

PS4 won't by being the best gaming machine out there, and continues to do so. That's why it won



forbes blows big time. sony won because ps4 has a better library. also the wii u was just rough as fuck and the xbox has the shittiest UI i've ever dealt with.



Sony won by not doing any major fuck ups, as opposed to MS and Nintendo.



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BraLoD said:
Forbes actual post: PS4 won because it didn't try to screw gamers from the start and focused on games.
Well, I'm all in for that to happen again, indeed.
About PS4 lack of innovation... PSVR (VR gaming), PSNow (streaming gaming), Remoteplay (remote gaming on other devices) and Shareplay (play your friend games without owning it) you saw all those ideas on consoles first on PS4. Including Crossplay, Street Fighter V was PS4/PC from the get go.
Seems like someone at Forbes is kinda personally hurt.

PSNow is basically a Playstation rebranded Gaikal, and remoteplay and Shareplay also stem from that aquisition, it's nothing Sony developed or innovated. And the functionality of Shareplay was possible with Wii, DS and 3DS games before the PS4 launched. Also, Virtual boy?

And about Crossplay... you do know that PS/console crossplay is normally always allowed unless it's a Shooter or RTS game (as in those, Keyboard + Mouse have a very definitive, and thus unfair compared to console gamers, advantage in speed and precision), so SFV being crossplay with PC wasn't a big deal at all.

A big deal is, that crossplay with other consoles is still just possible with Fortnite and Rocket League, everywhere else Sony is blocking what could be patched in in 2 minutes. PC can play with everybody, but Sony apparently only with PC.

Also, last I checked, PSNow was pretty much crap, latency too high, image quality too low and excessively long loading times, especially on PS3 games.

This leaves PSVR, where they just jumped on the bandwagon created by the Kickstarter of the Oculus Rift. It's very low sales show, that VR is still very much niche.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 21 April 2019

PS4 won because of games because that's what 100% of people want when they look for a game console.

I've never listened to anything Forbes writes about for video games because clearly they get idiots to write for them.

Did the writer forget how MS wanted XB1 to always need to be connected online to use the system, and that you couldn't trade or borrow physical games? Was that also some of the few innovation this writer forgot to mention? Naw he just picked a few points to try and justify his stupid article.



With all honesty there are many gamers who won’t change their preferred console no matter what. With that being the case each creator has loyal fans who’ll never go over to a competitor. That is unless their chosen platform stumbles when it comes to what the consumer is there for in the first place: GAMES! PS4 delivered on games tenfold!

XBOX One is a great console but Sony outplayed Microsoft when it came to games that can only be played exclusively on each machine. And not only games that the players find to be great, the games are also heralded by media as well. I know players who bought PS4 for God Of War based off the reviews alone. Gamers who’d disliked the previous iterations of the game but couldn’t pass up the story. Really, only Nintendo ever benefits from being “different”. If Ninty has tried what MS tried to do with Kinect it would’ve been a *in Borat voice* great success! 👍🏾

Last edited by FentonCrackshell - on 21 April 2019

PC GAMING: BEST GAMES. WORST CONTROLS

A mouse & keyboard are made for sending email and typing internet badassery. Not for playing video games!!!

PS4 won because Nintendo and Microsoft fucked up so hard they didn't need to risk anything. They promised to deliver games and games they delivered. It is a gaming consoles after all lol.

The best part of the start of the gen was when Microsoft announced DRM and Sony waited (as early rumors said they would implement DRM too) to see the gamer's reaction. When shit it the fan, Sony did the smartest thing they could drop DRM, make that how to shares games skit video (i.e. lend your disc to a friend). That won a few people over. This was the first gen I skipped an xbox and you know what I do not regret it. Only thing I would have loved to play was Killer Instinct.




 

 

Eh, I'd use the word predictable instead of boring. They'll probably "win" every generation from here on out because of Nintendo's spot in the generation thing. Because let's be honest, Nintendo is at this time more of a competitor to Sony than MS in terms of sales, being on point with PS4 sales aligned. I do think Xbox 2 is going to put up a fight but Sony won't be caught off guard like they were with Gen 7.

I mean if "more power" works, and you have the games to back it I mean, leave it be.