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It is too early for me to make such a prediction. I need more informations about the consoles.



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If you mean the sales after the other 2 are released, then of course switch will be past it's best years and probably sell more than PS5 and NeXtBox for 2 years like the PS4 did over the switch. Than switch will naturally wind down and sell less than the power twins. But if you mean total sales, switch is charting pretty similar to PS4 so 90+mil is guaranteed. I don't think NeXtBox will sell that well and not sure about PS5. Sony has a history of messing up after a successful console.



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JRPGfan said:
fatslob-:O said:
The way I see things, the Switch is a last gen system so not really all that comparable to the next home consoles IMO ...

Doubt there'll be a higher end version of a Switch and I doubt it would alleviate the potential drying up of third party support anyways. Hitting resolution and frame rate targets are going to be the least of concerns when the vast majority of 3rd parties are going to be forced to accept the X1 as the bare minimum soon baseline for technically lower end games once the new systems reach the streets ...

^ this.

How can Switch be same gen as PS5 & XB2 ?

ARM Cortex-A57 @1ghz (x4 big cores + x4 little A53 cores) vs  8core/16 thread Zen2 @~3ghz AMD CPU.

CPU wise, Id bet thats like 20 times the power advantage to the PS5/XB2.


GPU wise:
Switch docked is 397 Gflops, while the PS5/XB2 will be 12-14 Tflops or so.
GPU wise, theres probably like a ~40 times power advantage to the PS5/XB2

GDDR6 will probably have like x20 times the memory bandwidth of the Switch.
SSD HDD will make the Switch HD look slow too.

Memory Size, will probably be x5 of the Switch's (16GB for gameing, +4GB for OS ect)


TBH Switch doesnt belong to same gen of hardware as PS5/XB2... its 2 gens behinde in terms of technological advancements.

It wont have TrueAudio, and be able to do raytraceing(audio) or graphics... it wont do VR, and it wont play current games at 4k@60.
Alot of Switch games are running below 720p 30fps.


The differnce between the Switch and PS5/PS6, is like compairing a PS2 to a PS4 almost, its a massive differnce in tech.

Not that I necessarily agree that the Switch is going to belong to the PS5/XB2 generation, but that the power of the Switch will have nothing to do with it. The 3DS is and will forever be in the same generation as the Xbox One X, a console that can't output more than 240p vs one at 2160p.



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Well, it's pretty obvious that PS5 is beating the XB2. I think it and the Anaconda will be pretty much the same power level. Nothing like the 40% the PS4 had over the XBO. Probably more like 10%-15%, if one is more powerful. And in that scenario Sony wins. It's possible it will be close in NA, but in Europe and Japan it won't be close at all.

Of course, there is a chance that the more powerful box is the Xbox 2, but if that's the case I see Microsoft not wanting to take much of a loss or any loss at all. So it may be a little more powerful, but it may also be $50-$100 more expensive. That will help PS5 even more.



Ljink96 said:
Well by the logic of a lot of people, Switch's isn't next gen so we can only compare PS5 and Xbox 2 until Switch 2 is released. That's how I see it anyway.

PS3/X360/Wii = Gen 7
PS4/XOne/WiiU = Gen 8
PS5/X4/Switch = Gen 9

Do we really have to explain that Sega Saturn/Dreamcast situation again? Why is Wii Gen 7 if it has the about the same power as GameCube (Gen 6)? Gens have nothing to do with power/resolution. Switch is officially the successor of Wii U, so it must be Gen 9. All sources will switch the Switch to Gen 9 as soon as PS5 will be released.

But maybe Nintendo releases completely new home console hardware next year (with new OS and different design – regarding rumors) and the Switch will be then counted as a handheld and successor of 3DS, since Nintendo is likely to launch new Switch handheld hardware this fall. I really can imagine a powerful stationary unit with gamecard slot and disc drive which can play exclusive content (and demanding 3rd party games with huge file sizes) AND Switch games in better quality (Zelda BOTW in 4K60 is already possible with cemu emulator).

OP: PS5: 100m, X4: 50m, Switch: 110m



kirby007 said:

Why you ask?

Its quite simple really as seen in the interview the PS5 is build to be futureproof and has a solid predecessor in the PS4.

The XB4 in the other corner, is rumored to be weaker and doesnt have the same library and most games will be playable on pc anyway. Besides how strong will the brand be after the flipflop known as the XBO.

And then we have the NS a great console but so far behind the curve most tvs wont cater to its resolution in a few years. Doubtfull if even the NSpro will handle stable 1440p/60fps. And ofcourse half its sales have been made in the current gen.

Thus my expectation for next gen which will result saleswise in the order Ps5>xb4>nsw

How is the PS5 more future proof than the ps4? Wasn't the PS4 supposed to last ten years?

The Xbox has by FAR the highest ceiling of any of the big three because of all the companies they've been buying. Their software output next cycle is going to make Sony and Nintendo look like jokes, and I say this as a Nintendo Fan first and foremost. The PC part is going to appeal to PC gamers and is going to lead to even more software sales, which is really the only thing that matters since hardware rarely profits much and often is sold at a loss or break even.

You really think in a few years (which means 3), that TVs won't do 1080p? HAHA. 4k resolution, I bet, won't be even 50% adopted by 2022. Nintendo is fine. The Switch is fine. And the Switch 2.0 will be fine.

I can't even comprehend any of this.



But NS is this generation. We will have to compare ninties next console with PS5 and NXbox.



Sony will probably have a strong start with the PS5, unless they mess the reveal up PS3/XBOne style. Considering they've been burning some of their consummer good will lately (lateness of getting cross-platform functionality, PS Classic being a cashgrab, increasing censorship on nudity...) it's not out of the question they could fuck it up, though it is minimal they have such a strong hold on the console market.

The XBTwo is going to struggle, both by the XBOne not being that competitive to begin with and due to Microsoft's direction to put their software on other platforms.

The Switch is the only real gaming handheld left in the market, and even at its weakest that has always reached at least 70-80m all platforms combined. The Switch is able to reach and pass that number easily, considering how well it sells due to the strength of Nintendo's IPs alone, plus the ocasional big 3rd party.

So PS5-NS-XB2

No idea how to quantify the Apple Arcade and Google Stadia effords compared to the regular consoles.



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