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While both films are considered horror movies, they are considered black films, as well, due to the cast Peele uses, and he doesn't intend to buck this trend because he feels those kinds of movies with white leads have been done to death.

"I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie. Not that I don't like white dudes," he said at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre in East Hollywood. "But I've seen that movie."

"It really is one of the best greatest pieces of this story, feeling like we are in this time [where] a renaissance has happened and proven the myths about representation in the industry are false," he added.

Peele made it clear that the opportunity to bring black people to a mainstream audience was simply one that he had to maximize because diversity wasn't prevalent in Hollywood in the past. "The way I look at it. I get to cast black people in my movies," he said. "I feel fortunate to be in this position where I can say to Universal, 'I want to make a $20 million horror movie with a black family.' And they say yes."

https://www.cbr.com/us-jordan-peele-white-lead-future-casting/

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Once again we have one of those cases that if any director was saying he wouldn't hire someone based on gender, color, religion, etc we would have had severe backlash. That is, if the target of the segregation weren't white male.

Don't know when they think doing more segregation will solve current one or diminish prejudice.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 27 March 2019

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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"Peele's statements shouldn't be misconstrued as segregative, because he has worked with white creatives before."

Isn't that the equivalent of someone saying they are not racist because they have black friends? A periodist should know to write smarter than this. XD



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"I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie. Not that I don't like white dudes," he said at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre in East Hollywood. "But I've seen that movie."

"Peele's statements shouldn't be misconstrued as segregative, because he has worked with white creatives before, especially for his Comedy Central work on Key & Peele, and it's also worth noting that his wife, Chelsea Peretti, is white. However, it's very clear, as per the impressive box office performance of Us, that there is a wide audience that wants more diverse movies and that's buying into his vision, even more so than the critically acclaimed Get Out."

These two parts of the report is the time of when said to other groups is considered a joke or dismissive "I don't hate gay, I even have a relative, or friend that is", "I'm not racist, I have a black friend".

The very fact that he wants to use skin color as reason to not hire someone would be deemed illegal in most countries, of course if subject of the profiling wasn't white.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

It really just sounds like white leads are not suited for the roles he's trying to create, I'm pretty sure Get Out and US are about the experience of black people, at least thematically.



I don't get why some people act like white dudes are this huge collective that all think, act, and behave alike. They're as diverse from eachother as they are with other races, maybe moreso in some cases. (of course the same applies for other races too). Not just with physical attributes but personality characteristics as well. The notion that myself (an American with Italian Polish ancestory) is closer to a northern European/Scandaniavan type than, say, a Hispanic, is completely laughable - especially since I've been mistaken for a Mexican person before :P

At what point do these terms become meaningless bullshit and merely an excuse to divide into tribes, painting people as "the other"?

I'm still looking forward to seeing his movie, but jesus christ, is it that much to ask to keep politics (especially identity politics) out of every bit of art and entertainment we consume these days? To me this toxic shit just taints what's probably an otherwise good piece of art.



 

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Darwinianevolution said:
"Peele's statements shouldn't be misconstrued as segregative, because he has worked with white creatives before."

Isn't that the equivalent of someone saying they are not racist because they have black friends? A periodist should know to write smarter than this. XD

His wife and mother are white. It's nothing against you, personally. He's just making socially conscious films with minority leads like a lot of non-white filmmakers have made a career out of before.



RJ_Sizzle said:
Darwinianevolution said:
"Peele's statements shouldn't be misconstrued as segregative, because he has worked with white creatives before."

Isn't that the equivalent of someone saying they are not racist because they have black friends? A periodist should know to write smarter than this. XD

His wife and mother are white. It's nothing against you, personally. He's just making socially conscious films with minority leads like a lot of non-white filmmakers have made a career out of before.

I'm not talking about the director, I'm talking about the writer of the article. As far as I've read, Peele hasn't actually said that, this is something the author has decided to say just because. Either he thought it was a good thing to say, in which case he's a rather poor writer, or he knew exactly people's reaction when stumbling upon this line, in which case he is very good click-baiting.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
It really just sounds like white leads are not suited for the roles he's trying to create, I'm pretty sure Get Out and US are about the experience of black people, at least thematically.

Yes, sure. And if someone said he wouldn't ever hire anyone that isn't white because it wouldn't fit the type of story he wants to tell, there would be 0 calls of racism right?

Just like that game that passed during medieval Bohemia and had one reviewer complaining of the lack of black people and that he had one history researcher confirm to him that there was a possibility that could have been a black person in that area.

Or just like a recent preview of Days Gone that started complaining that the lead was a white gruffy male.

RJ_Sizzle said:
Darwinianevolution said:
"Peele's statements shouldn't be misconstrued as segregative, because he has worked with white creatives before."

Isn't that the equivalent of someone saying they are not racist because they have black friends? A periodist should know to write smarter than this. XD

His wife and mother are white. It's nothing against you, personally. He's just making socially conscious films with minority leads like a lot of non-white filmmakers have made a career out of before.

Funny you say that, because in Brazil we have a president that his father in law is black and his best friend also is black, but is called racist. The VP is from black and indigenous heritage, and was claimed to be racist because he joked that his grandson is prettier because his skin was lighter.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

I may catch a written beating by saying this, but I don't see why what he's saying is a problem. He's absolutely right. The white lead trope has been done, and will continue to be done. I look at films the same way that I look at books: the auteur/author should be able to write what they wish without scrutiny. There are native American authors who have written amazing historical books--fiction, non-fiction, and everything in-between--centered around the Wounded Knee Massacre of 1892 (Fool's Crow), the mass integration of natives as they were tricked into selling their reservations in exchange for cramped apartments in the big cities (Roofwalker). People should write/film/record what they feel closest to, what haunts them, and what compels them to do their best work.

I don't see a racist statement. I see an artist discussing his process.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
It really just sounds like white leads are not suited for the roles he's trying to create, I'm pretty sure Get Out and US are about the experience of black people, at least thematically.

I haven’t seen Us yet, but that is exactly what Get Out is about, and it explicitly works so well because if it’s deliberate casting.