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EricHiggin said:
Runa216 said:

And this right here is a perfectly encapsulated representation of the modern republican! 

"Uh oh, something got complicated and nuanced, better disregard it!"

I don't see any reply based on the racial portion of the pic. Did you just disregard it? 

A good loyal Democrat/Liberal would have pointed out the racism.

what racism? the character is a woman, but that's not what defines her or the quote associated with her. a good democrat doesn't equate 'casually accepting that black people exist' with racism. IT's you who thinks that this is racist. Or you are using a strawman argument to try to devalue my point by treating all democrats/liberals as folks who foam at the mouth any time race is even brought up.

Either way, you're being very, foolish and should probably stop.



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EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

1). This should be good.  Please elaborate on how Bernie Sanders is evil.

2). Did you just suggest that a solar farm may have unknown disastrous events like a nuclear power plant meltdown?

1). Progressives/MSM have made it clear that white males, especially elderly, are holding up the patriarchy, which is evil and must be stopped.

2). No. Did you just assume that the worst possible scenario is what I meant?

1). So you're mixing ignorance and flippancy now. 

2). Well, that's what your post was alluding to.  Runa agreed.  And if you meant something else, please expand upon the potential disastrous events that could be.



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Runa216 said:
EricHiggin said:

I don't see any reply based on the racial portion of the pic. Did you just disregard it? 

A good loyal Democrat/Liberal would have pointed out the racism.

what racism? the character is a woman, but that's not what defines her or the quote associated with her. a good democrat doesn't equate 'casually accepting that black people exist' with racism. IT's you who thinks that this is racist. Or you are using a strawman argument to try to devalue my point by treating all democrats/liberals as folks who foam at the mouth any time race is even brought up.

Either way, you're being very, foolish and should probably stop.

Labels eh?.. 

"And this right here is a perfectly encapsulated representation of the modern republican!" 

""Uh oh, something got complicated and nuanced, better disregard it!""

That poor black woman. I wonder if she's a republican too? What do you think? What defines people, if anything?

Maybe you mean, what politics? We're all just people in the end right?

SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

1). Progressives/MSM have made it clear that white males, especially elderly, are holding up the patriarchy, which is evil and must be stopped.

2). No. Did you just assume that the worst possible scenario is what I meant?

1). So you're mixing ignorance and flippancy now. 

2). Well, that's what your post was alluding to.  Runa agreed.  And if you meant something else, please expand upon the potential disastrous events that could be.

I'll mix, while you spin. Deal?

2 vs 1. I must be wrong then. No way the minority... can be right. You got me!

I'm waiting for the explanation as to every single possible scenario as to how nuclear could be a problem, and how bad exactly, since it's been around so much longer. If we don't know that yet, how are we supposed to know about a much more recent technology?



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True social law, in all of us demand.
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Our North sinking slowly.
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EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

1). So you're mixing ignorance and flippancy now. 

2). Well, that's what your post was alluding to.  Runa agreed.  And if you meant something else, please expand upon the potential disastrous events that could be.

I'll mix, while you spin. Deal?

2 vs 1. I must be wrong then. No way the minority... can be right. You got me!

I'm waiting for the explanation as to every single possible scenario as to how nuclear could be a problem, and how bad exactly, since it's been around so much longer. If we don't know that yet, how are we supposed to know about a much more recent technology?

Are you seriously under the presumption that we didn't know the potential danger of nuclear power plants until after Chernobyl? 

With regards to the dangers of solar farms, use your imagination.  You're well versed in solar power operations, what's the absolute worst that could happen at a solar farm?



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EricHiggin said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I think you're reading things that aren't there. I never suggested nuclear power always ends in disaster. I was talking about the possibility of disaster, and not just any disaster either, if a nuclear power plant goes wrong it's an absolutely huge fucking disaster. Are you actually suggesting that there's a chance solar power could kill millions of people and make huge swathes of land uninhabitable? If so, then could you provide some evidence? And if not, then clearly solar power isn't as dangerous as nuclear power.

The rest of your post isn't really relevant either. I was refuting the point that "you have to cut down trees for wind turbines". You don't. Just because you can, and sometimes people do, doesn't mean you "have to". You absolutely can build them without removing any trees whatsoever.

So why did they build Chernobyl in the first place, knowing the disaster that may occur? Did they know? If they did, well, they still built it and got away with it, until it became a problem. If they didn't, or thought the potential hazards weren't as bad as they ended up being, then who's to say solar couldn't end up being a problem in it's own way as well? I highly doubt the workers who built the plant knew what could happen, and finding public information about how there was likely an event like that being even remotely possible isn't worth looking for because who would go along with something like that knowing the trouble it could cause? I mean, why do you think there has been such a big scare over nuclear for decades now, and why fewer and fewer plants get built? Humans can't see the future. When we build things, we don't know everything that could happen, and we don't even know exactly how things will react to certain events that we know are possible. The best we can do is guess based on some tests and analysis and go from there. I mean, until the twin towers collapsed, there wasn't a problem with how they were built. Why did they build the replacement Freedom Tower like a tank? How is it that the Titanic sank? Unsinkable?

That's not a worthy argument either. Just because we can? Really? Could we end wars? Could we end starvation? Could we end poverty? Why don't we? Business, money, politics, ego, greed, etc. The biggest reason we do things is because we are forced to out of necessity, not because its the 'right' thing to do.

Given that nuclear power was an offshoot of the project to develop nuclear weapons... they would have had to have been complete idiots to not have known that there was the potential for a huge disaster. And considering more nuclear plants have been built since then as well the whole "they didn't know that could happen" excuse really does sound even more ridiculous.

Now name the times solar power was used to create a bomb. I mean, you're the one trying to compare the two and the fact is we knew nuclear power was dangerous since it was used in bombs from literally the moment it was discovered. Can you say the same about solar power?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound right now? You're basically arguing that "we shouldn't do something just because some people might do something bad with it". It's also massively ironic that you're advocating for nuclear power at the same time as arguing that.



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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

I'll mix, while you spin. Deal?

2 vs 1. I must be wrong then. No way the minority... can be right. You got me!

I'm waiting for the explanation as to every single possible scenario as to how nuclear could be a problem, and how bad exactly, since it's been around so much longer. If we don't know that yet, how are we supposed to know about a much more recent technology?

Are you seriously under the presumption that we didn't know the potential danger of nuclear power plants until after Chernobyl? 

With regards to the dangers of solar farms, use your imagination.  You're well versed in solar power operations, what's the absolute worst that could happen at a solar farm?

Then why did they build it at all? Why didn't they plan for what could happen and make adjustments so it wouldn't happen?

Did the designer and builders of the Titanic know the absolute worst scenario? Did they build it anyway? What about the designers and builders of the WTC towers? Did they build it anyway? Did they know everything that could happen? Why didn't they design and plan for that, or refuse to be part of the projects? If they didn't why should I know?



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

Ka-pi96 said:
EricHiggin said:

So why did they build Chernobyl in the first place, knowing the disaster that may occur? Did they know? If they did, well, they still built it and got away with it, until it became a problem. If they didn't, or thought the potential hazards weren't as bad as they ended up being, then who's to say solar couldn't end up being a problem in it's own way as well? I highly doubt the workers who built the plant knew what could happen, and finding public information about how there was likely an event like that being even remotely possible isn't worth looking for because who would go along with something like that knowing the trouble it could cause? I mean, why do you think there has been such a big scare over nuclear for decades now, and why fewer and fewer plants get built? Humans can't see the future. When we build things, we don't know everything that could happen, and we don't even know exactly how things will react to certain events that we know are possible. The best we can do is guess based on some tests and analysis and go from there. I mean, until the twin towers collapsed, there wasn't a problem with how they were built. Why did they build the replacement Freedom Tower like a tank? How is it that the Titanic sank? Unsinkable?

That's not a worthy argument either. Just because we can? Really? Could we end wars? Could we end starvation? Could we end poverty? Why don't we? Business, money, politics, ego, greed, etc. The biggest reason we do things is because we are forced to out of necessity, not because its the 'right' thing to do.

Given that nuclear power was an offshoot of the project to develop nuclear weapons... they would have had to have been complete idiots to not have known that there was the potential for a huge disaster. And considering more nuclear plants have been built since then as well the whole "they didn't know that could happen" excuse really does sound even more ridiculous.

Now name the times solar power was used to create a bomb. I mean, you're the one trying to compare the two and the fact is we knew nuclear power was dangerous since it was used in bombs from literally the moment it was discovered. Can you say the same about solar power?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound right now? You're basically arguing that "we shouldn't do something just because some people might do something bad with it". It's also massively ironic that you're advocating for nuclear power at the same time as arguing that.

Here's a start.

I take it trying out Trump as Prez wasn't a problem then, since nobody knew exactly what would happen if he took office?



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

EricHiggin said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Given that nuclear power was an offshoot of the project to develop nuclear weapons... they would have had to have been complete idiots to not have known that there was the potential for a huge disaster. And considering more nuclear plants have been built since then as well the whole "they didn't know that could happen" excuse really does sound even more ridiculous.

Now name the times solar power was used to create a bomb. I mean, you're the one trying to compare the two and the fact is we knew nuclear power was dangerous since it was used in bombs from literally the moment it was discovered. Can you say the same about solar power?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound right now? You're basically arguing that "we shouldn't do something just because some people might do something bad with it". It's also massively ironic that you're advocating for nuclear power at the same time as arguing that.

Here's a start.

I take it trying out Trump as Prez wasn't a problem then, since nobody knew exactly what would happen if he took office?

I'd argue that's more the danger of putting giant magnifying glasses above cities rather than using solar power. Fortunately solar power doesn't require that we affix giant magnifying glasses above cities so no need to worry there.

What's your point? Are you trying to argue that Trump shouldn't have been allowed to run in the election at all just because of what "might" happen if he gets elected? Because that's how you end up with dictatorships and totalitarianism. Dictators scared that somebody might beat them in an election so they just don't have elections at all. Is that what you're advocating? Stop having elections full stop just because there's a possibility somebody bad will get elected?



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EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

Are you seriously under the presumption that we didn't know the potential danger of nuclear power plants until after Chernobyl? 

With regards to the dangers of solar farms, use your imagination.  You're well versed in solar power operations, what's the absolute worst that could happen at a solar farm?

Then why did they build it at all? Why didn't they plan for what could happen and make adjustments so it wouldn't happen?

Did the designer and builders of the Titanic know the absolute worst scenario? Did they build it anyway? What about the designers and builders of the WTC towers? Did they build it anyway? Did they know everything that could happen? Why didn't they design and plan for that, or refuse to be part of the projects? If they didn't why should I know?

I have to repost this.

What exactly is your purpose with this dialog? What are you hoping to achieve? What is your solution to fighting climate change and providing adequate power?



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EricHiggin said:
Runa216 said:

what racism? the character is a woman, but that's not what defines her or the quote associated with her. a good democrat doesn't equate 'casually accepting that black people exist' with racism. IT's you who thinks that this is racist. Or you are using a strawman argument to try to devalue my point by treating all democrats/liberals as folks who foam at the mouth any time race is even brought up.

Either way, you're being very, foolish and should probably stop.

Labels eh?.. 

"And this right here is a perfectly encapsulated representation of the modern republican!" 

""Uh oh, something got complicated and nuanced, better disregard it!""

That poor black woman. I wonder if she's a republican too? What do you think? What defines people, if anything?

Maybe you mean, what politics? We're all just people in the end right?

SpokenTruth said:

1). So you're mixing ignorance and flippancy now. 

2). Well, that's what your post was alluding to.  Runa agreed.  And if you meant something else, please expand upon the potential disastrous events that could be.

I'll mix, while you spin. Deal?

2 vs 1. I must be wrong then. No way the minority... can be right. You got me!

I'm waiting for the explanation as to every single possible scenario as to how nuclear could be a problem, and how bad exactly, since it's been around so much longer. If we don't know that yet, how are we supposed to know about a much more recent technology?

You are an expert at speaking a lot but saying nothing at all. you should become a politician! 



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PS4, Switch, WiiU, XBO, PC
Vita, 3DS, Android

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