sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:
No, that would be the reform you talked about. Defunding means what it means. Take money away from or give less money to.
I dont get how you dont believe that the media is biased when it comes to this stuff though. If a white man hurts a person of color the headline is always "White man hurts someone." If its the other way around the headline is "Man hurts someone." I cant believe you havent noticed this.
I saw an article where a black person had done something wrong and the police were looking for him and the description they gave of him was that "He has brown eyes and dark hair" They cant even say hes black for fear of blowback. Sure there was a picture of him, but still...
The 1 Billion dollar cut might not have kicked in yet, but the lower morale of the police probably has.
We ARE asking the police to do too much, so I agree that they shouldnt have to answer calls of barking dogs and shit like that. But thats not really on them. People keep calling them for stuff like this. And if they didnt answer the call and the dog attacked someone, the police department would be criticized and smeared. So it should be on regular people to call someone else. I dont know who, but if they have a neighborhood watch or something like that, then call them.
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Dude, that is what I just said. Shrink the responsibility of the police and shrink their funding in kind. This coincides with your last point. You just repeated my own point back to me as if it was an argument against my point. Yes, we shouldn't be asking police to do all this. There should be another group who responds to 911 calls. If only there was some movement asking for this.... Oh wait, that is the central point of the "defund" movement. You clearly aren't against the movement when you repeat their mission statement back to me, you just don't like the word and that (combined with questionable reading comprehension) blinds you to everything I'm saying.
As for your point about "the media", you are wrong. Repeating yourself doesn't make you less wrong. There are a plethora of studies and articles discussing racist stereotypes in the media. One unsourced anecdote does not change that. Check your biases.
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You are being ridiculous. The "studies" you provide doesnt take the time a story gets on the news into account. Let me give you some examples. Ill give you 8 stories from this year. Ill divide them into white on black stories(group A) and black on white stories(group B).
Group A
- A Wendys employee calls the police on a black man sleeping in his car and holding up the line. The police comes, wakes the man and talks to him. They are both being polite. The police then give the man a breathalyzer test. He is above the legal limit, so they try to arrest him. The man resists arrest, wrestles the two police officer to the ground and punches one of the police officers in the face. He gets a hold of one of the police officers taser, breaks free and starts running. While running he turns around and fires the taser at the police officer. He misses and the police officer shoots him. The police officer tries to keep him alive until the ambulance arrives, but the man passes away.
- Some black BLM protesters break through an iron gate and starts protesting on private property(Im sure there were white people in the group as well). The white owners call the police, but they dont come. So they get their guns and tells the protesters to leave their property.
- A white woman bumps into a black teenage girl at a store. The mother of the child demands that the woman apologize. The woman does and walks to her car. The mother keeps yelling at the woman, calling her a racist among other insults. She tries to leave, but the mother blocks her car and starts punching the car. The woman gets out of her car, pulls out her gun and tell them to back off.
- A woman calls the police on a black man in a park. The black man was just birdwatching, but she felt intimidated for some reason.
Group B
- A white elderly couple are visiting the graveyard. A young black man approaches them and stabs them both to death.
- A white elderly woman is walking down the street. A black man pushes her while passing. She falls down and hits her head on a fire hydrant.
- A black man approaches a white woman walking down the street. He grabs her and chokes her out. Grabs her purse and runs.
- A 12 year old white kid is dancing on the side of the street. A car stops in the middle of the road. A black man walks up to the kid and punches him in the face causing the kid to fall down and having a nosebleed.
Now Im sure you have heard about all the cases in group A. They have been talked about a lot in the news. There has been several panels talking about and analyzing the events. Several hours over several days. The white people are called white supremacists, racists, Karens, whats wrong with the country and other awful things.
Now if you havent heard much about the cases in group B, I cant really blame you. The stories are "reported on" with some text going by on the bottom of the screen while the newscaster are talking about something completely different. Or they might get a short article on the news channels website. Or if they are very lucky, they will get a 2 minute news piece that airs once. As you can see I dont have much info on the cases in this group because theres not much info to find.
Now yes, all the cases have technically been reported on, but they are very skewed towards one group. Its unfair and its very dangerous. It gives people the perception that one group of people are almost the only ones committing crimes. And it causes other groups to rise up against them. Thats why we are seeing these violent protests and black people walking in big groups with automatic weapons. They believe they are under attack.
Also we barely hear about the serious problem that is black on black crime. Its out of control. Dozens of innocent black people killed every week. And pretty much all of these crimes are being committed in democratic run cities. The same people who keeps promoting Black Lives Matter. Yet they dont mention any of the black people being killed unless its by a white person. 5 black children was killed this weekend along with several adults. Nobody knows their name. They are just ignored by the media because they dont fit their agenda. Where is David Dorns golden casket? The retired black police officer of 37 years that tried to stop violent protesters from burning and looting black owned businesses. They walked up behind him and shot him in the head three times. Where is Al Sharpton when this happens? Probably elsewhere trying to make money off the backs of other black peoples misfortune and white peoples guilt. The man doesnt give a shit unless he has ten cameras pointed at him. Its become ridiculous.
If we are seeing eye to eye on the police reform, then fair enough.
Sorry for the long rant. I just needed to get some stuff off my chest.
If you want the sources for all these stories, Ill be happy to provide them.
Last edited by KLXVER - on 08 July 2020