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spemanig said:
I encourage anyone skeptical to watch the keynote. A lot of really cool tech being shown off that far surpass simple streaming conveniences.

Yeah! That keynote will do it! And on top of that is the way I implicitly trust Google to not shepherd the industry I love more than any other in directions that will make EA and Activision blush like schoolgirl. Did I mention I trust them implicitly? Because that trust I have is the most important thing really....Google can take their answer to a question nobody asked and cram it with walnuts.

Last edited by COKTOE - on 19 March 2019

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Mar1217 said:

Here it is guys. The 1% won't bother but oh well, I guess they don't live like the way some of us do.

20gb/hour. Wow, that will wreck most internets plans. What's the source for this?



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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COKTOE said:
spemanig said:
I encourage anyone skeptical to watch the keynote. A lot of really cool tech being shown off that far surpass simple streaming conveniences.

Yeah! That keynote will do it! And on top of that is the way I implicitly trust Google to not shepherd the industry I love more than any other in directions that will make EA an Activision blush like schoolgirl. Did I mention I trust them implicitly? Because that trust I have is the most important thing really....Google can take their answer to a question nobody asked and cram it with walnuts.

Not to mention them working SO CLOSE with the streamers they do everything they can to pay less and less each day.



spemanig said:
potato_hamster said:

I can play my vita, or my switch, or my laptop. Stop making a false dichotomy. A home console that's not meant to be portable isn't the only other option.

I think the dichotomy I was actually making here was unclear.

It's ridiculous to use such a simple example to point out the obvious limitations of one thing that excels in other avenues elsewhere. I could easily follow by saying "yeah, but can your laptop play games in 4K on an 60" screen?" and the point would stand. That's the point being made, not that "Everything is worse than Stadia, and PS4 proves it."

The "but it doesn't do everything, all the time" argument that you were trying to make is silly. It does more things better more of the time than any other platform out now, at least conceptually. Pointing out the small bubbles of outlier where one happens to succeed over the other is silly in this case. Yes, a game boy micro can fit into smaller pockets. Hooray, but a switch can go most places a micro can go, and it's more powerful, etc, etc.

But that wasn't my argument at all. In the best case scenario it is as good as a console. In the worst case scenario it is unusable.

In both of those scenarios my PS4 or laptop, or Switch or whatever will still be able to play whatever games I like regardless of how spotty my internet connection is. I don't have to rely on an internet connection that for the majority of the world isn't as reliable, consistent or affordable as you're making it out to be. I don't care about concept, I care about real world applications. I've seen plenty of absolutely outstanding tech demos that totally fell on their fucking face in the real world. If you need some recent examples, see Titanfall's release and claims that the game wouldn't be possible "without the power of the cloud" or better yet, check out Microsoft's claims about UWA. That shit never panned out, but the tech demos sure looked impressive!

But, hey if you want to count on google and the internet totally for your gaming experiences, that's cool man. Just don't try and dunk on anyone that points out the downsides of that. There's plenty of very valid concerns when you look beyond the presentation and get into the meat of real world applications and issues that an average user will have to contend with that they will not have to contend with on a traditional piece of gaming hardware.



It's really cool but there is some concerning~ issues.

Accessible = Good
No cheating = Good
No hacking = Good
No modding = Con
No ownership = Con
No download = Con



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Mar1217 said:

Here it is guys. The 1% won't bother but oh well, I guess they don't live like the way some of us do.

Edit : Seems like it hasn't been verified yet, will keep in check to see any update.

I can see data useage limiting it's mobile use, but in this day and age every 1st world country should have uncapped home internet and I don't understand why you are not in the streets protesting if you don't have access to that.



deskpro2k3 said:
It's really cool but there is some concerning~ issues.

Accessible = Good
No cheating = Good
No hacking = Good
No modding = Con
No ownership = Con
No download = Con

There can still be cheating. It just has to be done at an input level rather than a game engine level.



Mar1217 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

20gb/hour. Wow, that will wreck most internets plans. What's the source for this?

Read my edit.

It hasn't been confimed yet. Just looking through ResetEra and experts in the gaming sphere.

Highly doubt an unlimited package would allow 20GB per hour. Imagine playing for 8 hours. 



I don't want this to take off, but I have to admit that USA internet speed averages around 24 mbps right now. Internet speeds are growing by 22% a year. So streaming could actually take off. The only downside to this is that the word average is misleading. If one person out of ten has ultra fast 100 mbps internet speed, and the other 9 have 15 mbps then the "average" speed comes out to around 24 mbps. Just for reference you need 9 mbps to reliably stream PS3 games on PS Now. So for 4K or 1080 you would need a lot more. I'm no tech junkie but I would imagine that since 1080p is about 2.5 times 720p then you'd need about 22 mbps to stream games in 1080p. But I suppose the casuals that this device is targeting won't really care about resolution. If they are willing to play on their phones, then they won't care if the resolution is 720p, or 1080p in a console generation where upscaled, or native 4K is pretty much guaranteed.





ok I just finished watching the whole presentation. I honestly do not like it that much yet, I need to see how well it works for the first couple of months, and I need reviews.



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