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Well RIP Yang. He was too pure and polite for this debate. I can't see a way back from this debate for him.

Also didn't even know who Swalwell and the lady next to Hickenlooper were. They should both drop out soon.



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Winners: Harris, Bennet, and Buttigieg.
Solid Showing: Sanders, Swalwell, and Biden.
Losers: Williamson, Gillibrand, Hickenlooper, and Yang.
Yang really did not mess up compared ot the rest of the losers because what he said has substance. The issue was that NBC did not let him tal and he should have inserted himself more.



Poliwrathlord said:
Well RIP Yang. He was too pure and polite for this debate. I can't see a way back from this debate for him.

Also didn't even know who Swalwell and the lady next to Hickenlooper were. They should both drop out soon.

Yang just needs to be more aggressive during the second and third debate.



My overall rankings for the two debates.

1. Castro

2. Harris

3. DeBlasio

4. Bennet

5. Inslee

7. Buttigieg

8. Delaney

9. Warren

10. Sanders

11. Booker

12. Biden

13. Swalwell

14. Hickenlooper

15. klobuchar

16. Gabbard

17. Yang

18. Beto

19. Ryan

20. Williamson





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Last four hours on google trends. Crazy won.

Last edited by jason1637 - on 28 June 2019

Jumpin said:

So far:
1. Kamala Harris (and it's not even close)
2. Bernie, Gillibrand, and Buttgieg are also strong.

This group is REALLY long-winded compared to yesterday.

I think Kamala Harris just shit the bed on Climate Plans, this was worse than Warren's weakest bit on guns.

Current rankings of the good potential nominees (just a coincidence that it's 10):

1. Elizabeth Warren
2. Kamala Harris
3. Julian Castro
4. Bill De Blasio
5. Buttigieg
6. Cory Booker
7. Bernie Sanders
8. Kirsten Gillibrand
9. Jay Inslee
10. Joe Biden

Gonna flip Buttigieg and Booker. After watching clips, I found Buttigieg came off too rehearsed. Watching Booker, he came off WAY more authentic. I also reconsidered Biden, he never recovered after Kamala Harris savaged him. Swalwell had some good points, so I'll push him into 10. I also think Julian Castro is closer to Harris than Harris is to Warren. I forgot how strong he was night 1. He and De Blasio both savaged Beto as hard as Harris did to Biden.

Biden and Beto were the biggest losers in the debate. Biggest winners were Warren, Harris, and Castro. De Blasio, Booker, and Buttigieg established themselves as players. Bernie didn't die, he did alright, but needs to pick up his game, I think he slides to 4th in the polls behind Harris if he doesn't do anything major in the next couple of weeks.

1. Elizabeth Warren
2. Kamala Harris
3. Julian Castro
4. Bill De Blasio
5. Cory Booker
6. Pete Buttigieg
7. Bernie Sanders
8. Kirsten Gillibrand
9. Jay Inslee
10. Eric Swalwell

Last edited by Jumpin - on 28 June 2019

I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

What's with the Gillibrand love? She came off as way too annoying. She constantly kept screwing over people. There are ways to interject yourself like DeBlasio and Castro did but Gillibrand failed at doing it right.



Mnementh said:

First results for the effects of the first debate are in, and are mind-boggling.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-poll/

Well, Castro and Warren did well, and Beto O'Rourke bad, other than that it is not so clear. For complete unknown reason this desaster for Tim Ryan actually helped him.

About Tim Ryan, I think it's mostly due to most people not knowing him at all, and now starting to form an opinion.



jason1637 said:
Poliwrathlord said:
Well RIP Yang. He was too pure and polite for this debate. I can't see a way back from this debate for him.

Also didn't even know who Swalwell and the lady next to Hickenlooper were. They should both drop out soon.

Yang just needs to be more aggressive during the second and third debate.

If he is not aggressive in the second debate, there will be no third debate for him.



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