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OTBWY said:
Bernie leading in Texas now by 2 points.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.



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Jaicee said:
OTBWY said:
Bernie leading in Texas now by 2 points.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.



OTBWY said:
Jaicee said:

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.

Speaking of Texas and Latinos, how long until Texas turns blue forever and puts an end to Republican presidents? 



Mnementh said:
numberwang said:

Sanders got clobbered and humiliated by HER last time. Maybe he will fight this time. Warren endorsed HER last time and will endorse Sanders' main opponent again.

I don't know. Warren endorsed the winner, after the winner was decided. And I think it is quite telling, that Warren and Sanders are light on the attacks on each other. Instead the modereates started to fight each other. Too many in this lane, so they fight over who is the king there.

Did you miss the episode where Warren claimed that Bernie said a woman cannot win the presidency?

"I think you called me a liar on national TV"

https://youtu.be/YYyi0jgAnzQ?t=38



numberwang said:
Mnementh said:

I don't know. Warren endorsed the winner, after the winner was decided. And I think it is quite telling, that Warren and Sanders are light on the attacks on each other. Instead the modereates started to fight each other. Too many in this lane, so they fight over who is the king there.

Did you miss the episode where Warren claimed that Bernie said a woman cannot win the presidency?

"I think you called me a liar on national TV"

https://youtu.be/YYyi0jgAnzQ?t=38

To add to this, Warren has joined up with the moderates (cause she is one) and is attacking bernie. Did you miss the episode with the Union as well? She isn't being Light on attacks against Bernie at all. She keeps jabbing and jabbing and jabbing at bernie non stop even teamed up with Joe, klob and the rest.



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Jaicee said:
OTBWY said:
Bernie leading in Texas now by 2 points.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.

And this can kill it for the "moderates" like Biden, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg, as they will be stealing each other's votes, keeping each number's down, all while Sanders has little opposition on his side now since Warren has slid down, Yang dropping out, Steyer polling above 3% only in the next 2 states and Gabbard polling way too low in any state.

Cerebralbore101 said:
OTBWY said:

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.

Speaking of Texas and Latinos, how long until Texas turns blue forever and puts an end to Republican presidents? 

With his treatment of Latinos, I'm sure those will flock to the democrats, especially if Bernie can win the nomination. With their support and the increasing urbanisation of the state, I think starting 2020 Texas will become a swing state. And if the republicans lose Texas, they also pretty much lose all hope to win an election, as that state is simply too big to compensate.



Come on folks, tossing the "moderate" label on Warren as if it were some insult, even if it were true, it's just lame. She's to the left of probably 80% of the American populace. If you want a candidate that has never attacked anyone else in the race, then Bloomberg is actually the guy for you.

I honestly wish it weren't, considering the awkwardness it causes to party members later in the generals, but that has always been part of the game.



 

 

 

 

 

Giving validity to numberwang as if he was a progressive ally...



haxxiy said:

Come on folks, tossing the "moderate" label on Warren as if it were some insult, even if it were true, it's just lame. She's to the left of probably 80% of the American populace. If you want a candidate that has never attacked anyone else in the race, then Bloomberg is actually the guy for you.

I honestly wish it weren't, considering the awkwardness it causes to party members later in the generals, but that has always been part of the game.

And that's definitely not the case. 80% of the american populace? Really? Are you sure about that? You're under the impression that americans are center right or right of center when that is not the case in the slightest. Do you want to know how I can say that? Look at bernies Left wing Agenda. Remove Bernie, and the dumb socialist labels from them.

Now Look at polling data on these issues, all of the issues that Bernie is running on. Guess what? They're popular. Why is it that all these left wing ideas are Popular if America is some center right wing country? It's cause its not. She's a Moderate. Look at her platform, she's moon walked away from M4A and no Moren, she wasn't being "honest" about how to pay for it. She revealed a plan that said "I'll fight for a public option and put a regressive tax to pay for it just so I can say the middle class wont have to pay more in taxes". It was foolish and the plan is a dud. Bernie has told you how he'll pay for M4A so many times yet he keeps getting asked the same question when the fact of the matter is. ITS CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND COVERS EVERYONE! But Yes, with that out of the way. If you're bringing me means tested solutions to problems as the "best option", then you're giving me the "moderate" position. Student Loan debt is a problem, and will probably cause another crash. Let's get rid of some of it instead of all, that will totally fix the issue. I mean, If we're talking about the people in congress she's definitely to the left of most of them, but considering most of them are corporate sellouts that's really not that hard to do. But if you really compare her to the general public which btw is economically "Liberal" but Culturally more conservative then depending on the metric you're either dead wrong or right. But in the grand scheme of things, you're definitely just wrong.

In other words, look at the ideas, look at where they are on the scale and look at how they poll. If americans are saying they're for lefty ideas, when the person you're saying is not a moderate is trying for watered down versions of these ideas.... well..... I think that speaks for itself.

Moren said:
Giving validity to numberwang as if he was a progressive ally...

I don't care where the person stands in the slightest. If you make a good point I agree with it. If you make a not so good point or just tell a blatant lie, I will disagree with it. Its really simple.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
OTBWY said:

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.

Speaking of Texas and Latinos, how long until Texas turns blue forever and puts an end to Republican presidents? 

It can happen anytime I think. It is all a question of bringing the turnout up in minority communities. Beto O'Rourke came actually pretty close. 220K were missing. And it is not like Ted Cruz was losing many votes, about 180K less than 2012. But Beto managed to get 1.8 million more votes than Sadler. So it is all about the turnout.



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