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Mnementh said:
haxxiy said:

Oof. Brace for impact, folks. Brace for impact.

Disclaimer: all three match or exceed Clinton's numbers with White voters, but they're underperforming Clinton with minorities, probably due to undecideds (I would hope, at least). Except for Biden, this effect is enough to make Warren and Sanders underperform Clinton's totals even though they are overperforming her numbers among Whites.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/should-we-take-these-early-general-election-polls-seriously-no/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-use-general-election-polls-to-try-to-predict-the-primaries/

Nate is right. Unfortunately, though, his own data shows Republicans actually tend to gain, on average, comparing polling one year before election to actual results.



 

 

 

 

 

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DarthMetalliCube said:
I just will never get the Biden support. Especially after the Ukraine scandal and creepy vids of him basically sniffing young girls. Lots of naive boomers I guess who just want a "safe" democrat. "He was Obama's VP! I know him!"

Or maybe he's experienced with solid proposals. 



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jason1637 said:
DarthMetalliCube said:
I just will never get the Biden support. Especially after the Ukraine scandal and creepy vids of him basically sniffing young girls. Lots of naive boomers I guess who just want a "safe" democrat. "He was Obama's VP! I know him!"

Or maybe he's experienced with solid proposals. 

You mean like Bernie Sanders?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/



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Mnementh said:
jason1637 said:

Or maybe he's experienced with solid proposals. 

You mean like Bernie Sanders?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/

I guess but atleast Biden isnt a socialist.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
On another note, I would be interesting to know who those former Beto voters will vote for now.



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jason1637 said:
Mnementh said:

You mean like Bernie Sanders?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/

I guess but atleast Biden isnt a socialist.

No, he'll just sell out the working class and leave the poor out to die. "But at least he ain't a damn socialist" Jesus Christ, you can't be serious?

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Biden is running on more progressive policies than Obama. Let us stop with the handwringing as if the old chap is basically Hitler, shall we?

Now, on the other hand, Cruz and Rubio legitimately seemed to want the poor to die. They even made Trump look good by offering him a lane economically to the left of all that paleoconservative Tea Party nonsense.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:

Biden is running on more progressive policies than Obama. Let us stop with the handwringing as if the old chap is basically Hitler, shall we?

Now, on the other hand, Cruz and Rubio legitimately seemed to want the poor to die. They even made Trump look good by offering him a lane economically to the left of all that paleoconservative Tea Party nonsense.

Biden is also fairly popular with Midwestern Union workers and is seen very favorably. All the way from healthcare, to workers rights, he's got it covered.

Unfortunately, this thread might as well be the Democratic Socialist 2019 discussion.

Last edited by Moren - on 05 November 2019