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It speaks to the quality of journalism / news outlets these days, right?

Its not just the non-story news.... theres alot of news we honestly dont need, that just end up distracting peoples attention away from real issues.
Sadly as journalism standards keep dropping, and the news outlets get away with such cheap & crappy quality,...



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But.... you're part of the problem by spreading it



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What's all the hype with pro vaccine and anti vaccine people lately?



TheGamer_1995 said:
What's all the hype with pro vaccine and anti vaccine people lately?

There's an outbreak of Measles in around 10 states of the US due to anti vaxers.



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NightlyPoe said:

The last few days this story has been showing up in my newsfeeds.  In it an 18-year-old teenager "defies" his parents and gets vaccinated after asking how it's done on Reddit (seriously?) with overwrought "God knows how I'm still alive."

Now this topic isn't about vaccines.  They're safe, keep your kids alive, and protect other kids in the bargain.  Get them people.  If you disagree, make your own topic.

No, this topic is about how the media sensationalizes non-stories in order to frame a story.  And this is the definition of a non-story.  We have this adult who made an adult decision.  It might cause some internal family conflict, but it's not international news.  At the age of 18 you can vote, volunteer for the army, make stupid financial decisions that will leave you in debt for years (or just go to college), get a tattoo, get a boob job and be paid to pork on camera, get married, walk out of your home telling your parents they're worthless pieces of whatever and never speak to them again, etc.

In the grand scheme of thing, getting vaccinated ranks as one of the lesser freedoms that come with reaching adulthood.  But the media want to push the vaccination story at the moment, so they elevate this non-story of an intra-family conflict and I keep getting these articles from multiple sources.  The reason they do this is because it pushes a desired narrative.  It's completely manufactured, but the goal isn't to inform their readers/viewers, it's to advocate for one side of an issue via manufactured personalization.  They can run articles from scientists all day to try and persuade, but it's easier to elevate this guy and pretend a non-story is a story in order to put a face on it.  This is just one of the ridiculous and transparent attempts at it.

It's something to keep in mind while consuming news and their little bag of tricks in how to manipulate the public.

Do you find it interesting that it is harder for a minor to get vaccinated than it is for a minor to get an abortion?



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There's nothing you can do about it, except for not reading these articles. Tabloids are simply more popular than serious newspapers. It's been like that for decades and it won't change as long as people keep reading this stuff.



With anti-vaxxers causing outbreaks of preventable diseases, it was only a matter of time before a case like this became a human interest story.



NightlyPoe said:
Flilix said:
There's nothing you can do about it, except for not reading these articles. Tabloids are simply more popular than serious newspapers. It's been like that for decades and it won't change as long as people keep reading this stuff.

These aren't coming from tabloids.  They're coming from so-called serious news sources of various types.

The line between tabloids and serious newspapers isn't always clear, as tabloids also do more serious stuff occassionally and the serious papers also do stuff like this sometimes.

Nonetheless, the reasoning is the same: every news source wants as many clicks/reads as possible, so all of them write about things people want to read (in varying degrees, of course). Sensationalism and clickbait will never not be effective.



NightlyPoe said:

The last few days this story has been showing up in my newsfeeds.  In it an 18-year-old teenager "defies" his parents and gets vaccinated after asking how it's done on Reddit (seriously?) with overwrought "God knows how I'm still alive."

Now this topic isn't about vaccines.  They're safe, keep your kids alive, and protect other kids in the bargain.  Get them people.  If you disagree, make your own topic.

No, this topic is about how the media sensationalizes non-stories in order to frame a story.  And this is the definition of a non-story.  We have this adult who made an adult decision.  It might cause some internal family conflict, but it's not international news.  At the age of 18 you can vote, volunteer for the army, make stupid financial decisions that will leave you in debt for years (or just go to college), get a tattoo, get a boob job and be paid to pork on camera, get married, walk out of your home telling your parents they're worthless pieces of whatever and never speak to them again, etc.

In the grand scheme of thing, getting vaccinated ranks as one of the lesser freedoms that come with reaching adulthood.  But the media want to push the vaccination story at the moment, so they elevate this non-story of an intra-family conflict and I keep getting these articles from multiple sources.  The reason they do this is because it pushes a desired narrative.  It's completely manufactured, but the goal isn't to inform their readers/viewers, it's to advocate for one side of an issue via manufactured personalization.  They can run articles from scientists all day to try and persuade, but it's easier to elevate this guy and pretend a non-story is a story in order to put a face on it.  This is just one of the ridiculous and transparent attempts at it.

It's something to keep in mind while consuming news and their little bag of tricks in how to manipulate the public.

I think you missed the point of this news. 

The point is not the boy, or even his parents, but Andrew Wakefield, the British guy who amassed followers in his teaching that vaccines would cause autism and who is at the base of the measles outbreak in the US. It's point is that (mostly) ultraconservatives are following his teachings and are now reaping the foul fruits in form of outbreaks from diseases which are thought mostly eradicated in the developed countries.

Basically, it's trying to say "don't listen to this guy, it's safe to get vaccinated and you should do it if you haven't yet".



The entirety of the anti-vaccination movement is utterly bizarre. What possible reason would you have to willingly refuse something that has improved so much of Mankind's health throughout history and has millions of safe users every year? Both Smallpox and Rinderpest (a cattle disease) have been erradicated through vaccines, and a bunch of other diseases are in their way out because of them.



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