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So I've been playing Smash Ultimate, and looking at tier lists for the game. So far I've put 30 hours into the game, and mainly played as Link, and Samus. P

People say that Link is top tier and I agree. His spike attack can hit twice, and even goes through things like Fox's up special. His up Smash is fast, has a wide arc, and hits three times. Forward Smash hits twice for great damage. He has moves on top of moves, and the sword just offers a lot of hit range. 

Samus on the other hand seems to be good, but not broken. She is mainly a projectile based character, but lots of fighters have a way of sending her missiles back at her. A fully charged neutral B can't be reflected though. Her spike attack lacks range or speed. This makes her really easy to be juggled IMO. Her down and A (not a Smash attack), can hit fighters even when they are in a normally invincible state like lying on the ground after getting hit really hard. Her up Smash is kind of slow. Bombs from her down B are kind of pointless other than to make yourself harder to hit. A really good combo for her is to do a neutral jump and then quickly hit A while facing the opponent. After that just let a fully charged shot rip, for a combo that will instantly KO anybody that is caught in it (so long as they have 50% damage after the first hit). Super Missile into charged shot breaks shields easily.  Screw Attack is a good move like Mario's Jump, but damage is a little weak on it. 

As for the rulesets, I like having Smash Meter turned on, with stages being tame ones. Chaotic stages are annoying. Final Smash moves are much weaker when not using a Smash Ball so it feels a lot more balanced, than just letting the Smash ball be in the game. I'm on the fence as to whether or not Spirits should be usable. There's probably a bunch of super OP combos with certain characters and spirits that break the game. Also spirit type advantages in multiplayer break the game, so neutral main spirits should be the only ones allowed. 

Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 18 January 2019

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2. Link
3. Shulk
4. Ganondorf
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Once Joker comes out, he's going to be my #1. No ifs, ands, or buts. 

Favorite Ruleset:
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Lol you're not too knowledgeable on Smash stuff it seems. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Link may be a top tier (I don't think so, though), but if he is it's not because of his smash attacks or spike. Link's big deal is the remote bomb, which allows him to recover in all sorts of crazy ways and can give him insane stage control if used correctly, especially coupled with his boomerang. From then on, yeah, he just destroys anyone with that insane killpower.

Samus's charge shot can always be reflected unless it's already been reflected several times, and her spike is one of the best and easiest to land in the game. Her "down A" attack is called a down tilt, and it doesn't hit invincible opponents at all - opponents are not invincible when lying on the ground. And her bombs really are mostly just to make you harder to hit, but that's actually a very good thing.

 

Anyways, personally I'm a competitive player so my ruleset preferences are quite basic. 3 stocks, 7 minutes, mostly everything turned off, Final Destination only (well, and also Battlefield, Smashville, Pokémon Stadium, Lylat Cruise, Kalos and Unova Pokémon Leagues, Town & City, WarioWare, Castle Siege and Yoshi's Story). Personally I also like Frigate Orpheon, Halberd and maybe a couple others - I do want as many stages as possible in competitive play, but have been really disappointed by some decisions people have been making.

My main is Ridley, he's awesome. His neutral air is insanely good, gets through everything, good in advantage and disadvantage, good in neutral and also offstage. Just an amazing move. Then well, there's the rest of the moveset, which for the most part I like (except for that shitty down air, did it really have to be a dive?), but what I like most about Ridley is the aesthetics, his animations are so cool and full of character, and the Meta Ridley design is great. I feel like he's a little lacking and might need a few buffs, but he's got loads of potential.

Then there's also Meta Knight, my ex-main from Smash 4, who, while I still find quite fun to play, it just hasn't really worked out for me in this game. I reckon he's actually top tier, but I guess I just can't get used to dash attack spam not being effective like it was in the previous game. It's cool that he got more range, though, and his tornado is crazy good now, especially for edgeguarding. I'm still playing him sparingly, but nowhere near as much as Ridley.

Last edited by mZuzek - on 18 January 2019

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mZuzek said:

Lol you're not too knowledgeable on Smash stuff it seems. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Link may be a top tier (I don't think so, though), but if he is it's not because of his smash attacks or spike. Link's big deal is the remote bomb, which allows him to recover in all sorts of crazy ways and can give him insane stage control if used correctly, especially coupled with his boomerang. From then on, yeah, he just destroys anyone with that insane killpower.

Samus's charge shot can always be reflected unless it's already been reflected several times, and her spike is one of the best and easiest to land in the game. Her "down A" attack is called a down tilt, and it doesn't hit invincible opponents at all - opponents are not invincible when lying on the ground. And her bombs really are mostly just to make you harder to hit, but that's actually a very good thing.

 

Anyways, personally I'm a competitive player so my ruleset preferences are quite basic. 3 stocks, 7 minutes, mostly everything turned off, Final Destination only (well, and also Battlefield, Smashville, Pokémon Stadium, Lylat Cruise, Kalos and Unova Pokémon Leagues, Town & City, WarioWare, Castle Siege and Yoshi's Story). Personally I also like Frigate Orpheon, Halberd and maybe a couple others - I do want as many stages as possible in competitive play, but have been really disappointed by some decisions people have been making.

My main is Ridley, he's awesome. His neutral air is insanely good, gets through everything, good in advantage and disadvantage, good in neutral and also offstage. Just an amazing move. Then well, there's the rest of the moveset, which for the most part I like (except for that shitty down air, did it really have to be a dive?), but what I like most about Ridley is the aesthetics, his animations are so cool and full of character, and the Meta Ridley design is great. I feel like he's a little lacking and might need a few buffs, but he's got loads of potential.

Then there's also Meta Knight, my ex-main from Smash 4, who, while I still find quite fun to play, it just hasn't really worked out for me in this game. I reckon he's actually top tier, but I guess I just can't get used to dash attack spam not being effective like it was in the previous game. It's cool that he got more range, though, and his tornado is crazy good now, especially for edgeguarding. I'm still playing him sparingly, but nowhere near as much as Ridley.

I didn't want to make the Link paragraph too long, but yes the remote bombs are great. So is the bow and arrow. And the up special. I feel like link doesn't have a single bad move in his arsenal. 

In the tips section of the game it said that projectiles that deal 50% or more damage cannot be reflected. Maybe the game's tooltip is wrong though, I haven't tested it. Samus' spike just lacks range IMO. Either that or I'm just bad at using it. Link's spike seems easy because it stays out forever, so timing isn't an issue. Do most moves just whiff when people are lying on the ground then? I just found out that there are up tilts, down tilts, and forward tilts. How do you do these? So far I've only figured out how to do a down tilt. 

I like Ridley too, but haven't gotten enough hours with him yet. His forward B is my favorite move. Grab them and then fly offstage while holding on. I bought a Ridely Amiibo to complete the Metroid Amiibo collection, so I'll have to main him eventually. And yes, his Metal skins are awesome. 




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