Wait 'till you try VR. Maybe that'll get you to buy into next gen.

Yea, personally I really like being able to spot details/enemies in the far distance, so I'm very much in favor of higher rendering resolutions, but even for me the difference between 1080p with super sampling and 4k is subtle (and between checkerboard 4k and native 4k it's even less obvious). I kinda get the impression that ppl feel they have to emphasize the differences soo much, because they are so minor.

The tv that i'm talking about, is for me and only me, to use. The curve definitely helps me be centered better, to the screen, even more than when i had my previous flat tv, which was 10" smaller.

Even Digital Foundry (or AnandTech) had said checkerboard got it very close to native.

If you use it alone perhaps you see some additional benefits then =p

Diminishing returns. 4 times the resources to split an already small pixel into 4 squares. It does look better. But I don't think it looks 4 times better.

I think we're at a tipping point here now, where the extra power required for these small incremental improvements will be deemed not worth it.

You need next level, 100000000000k then you will start to see a difference.

Pretty much this.

I feel like next gen we will see a much smaller focus on better visuals than we have been seeing from gen to gen.  I mean people were ready disappointed with 7th gen into 8th gen, so the focus needs a shift to remain relevant.

I feel like games will focus more on special effects, AI,  physics , and world immersion.  This means a huge leap in CPU levels compared to the underpowered jumps we have recieved in the past, and the X1X is still lacking in this aspect serverly to be even a low end next gen console.  Like you said, while the GPU is able to get the job done, that is likely not what people are even concerned about.

I meant to say this yesterday but I respect you, op. A lot of people buy new hardware and they feel they HAVE to justify their purchase by bragging about how much better their experience is. They have little concern that somebody may be reading their exaggerated experience and will spend hundreds on a disappointment.

Yeah, I love my PS4 Pro and my Xbox One X. I like the peace of mind that I'm having the best possible experience I can have (this side of the PC). I don't want others jumping in thinking it's going to be something it's not.
Anyway, again let me say, respect.

The X One X might has the GPU power to render in native 4K, yet not to actually render 4K games. What you get now is games made for 1080p rendered at a higher resolution. It will look a bit better, just like rendering last gen 720p games on a 1080p screen. The assets, geometry, textures are still last gen. Same for games today rendered in 4K. There is no level of detail jump to go with the 1080p to 4K switch as there is between last gen and current gen games.

I have a 65" 4K HDR tv. HDR is what makes it worth it. 4K, I can see the difference when I stand at 5ft in front of the tv, can't tell the difference from the couch at 11ft. At 5ft 1080p still looks good, the only really noticeable difference is lack of or bad HDR.

Recommended max distance to benefit from 4K is at a 40 degree viewing angle, which is 1.2 x diagonal screen size, max 6.5ft from a 65" tv to be able to tell the difference. Basically diagonal size in inches divided by 10, that's how many feet you can sit away.

You can sit closer. A 40 degree viewing angle for 4K corresponds to about 100 pixels per degree. For 1080p the recommendation was to view the content at 60 pixels per degree or 1.5 x diagonal screen size for a 30 degree viewing angle. (To be exact 1.56 x diagonal size and 31.2 fov) To get close enough to a 4K screen for the same pixel density you have to sit at 0.78 x diagonal size for a 58.4 degree fov. That's 4.2ft from a 65" 4K screen. That's where you get max benefits. Of course since the screen is flat sitting that close is not ideal.

Depending on which model you purchased, your underwhelming experience is understandable.  There are a lot of budget 4k tvs out there, and they aren't apples to apples with the higher end panels.  Vizio's P series Quantum is a pretty darn nice display, so if that's the one you got, it should look great.  I didn't get that one because its processing power for fast movement and for upscaling lower resolutions was poor, and I have lots of older content being played.  I went from a Samsung 50" 1080p LED DLP to a 65" Q7fn.  It's very bright, with great native contrast, and gaming mode looks and feels absolutely awesome. 

No dissapointment here and its only the tv upscaling.  native 4k games will be sweet on this tv when I go that route.

I'm stoked for micro led tv's, which up the ante even further for amazing hdr viewing; when it becomes affordable of course.