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And it had to get to the general part of "poor nintendo is a victim of third parties trying to destroy it because Sony and MS fear it".



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Cerebralbore101 said:

Good third party support is if the Switch gets the same or better 3rd party support as the 3DS + Vita Combined. Switch is a hybrid, but it has the power of a handheld, so it should be cut some slack. Anybody complaining that it doesn't have every AAA 3rd party game, doesn't understand things right. 

DonFerrari said:
If you have a good gaming PC, for sure buy your multiplats there as they will be cheaper and play better, why would you do it otherwise?

Good 3rd party support to Switch is receiving the same games as PS4 and X1.

I'm still paying $35 to $45 for physical versions of my multiplats on launch day, thanks to my gamer's club membership. For example: Kingdom Hearts 3 is costing me $35 because I get it for 20% off, and then there's a $10 gift card for pre-ordering. Oh and I get 8.5% cash back on my Best Buy card. Try using https://www.pricecharting.com/ to find out how much physical versions of a game really cost. They are almost always the same price or cheaper than the digital versions of PC games. And that's even if you check on key reseller sites. The actual Steam/Uplay/Origin/GoG prices of games are usually full price until there's a sale. Finally, I wouldn't use key reseller sites to buy my games, because they are often funded by stolen credit cards. 

You are right that you can easily find good prices (unfortunately I don't live in USA to take advantage of this, but I buy a lot of second hand when I travel there). And also usually PC drop prices faster.

Anyway that wasn't really the point. I was more like talking that if you have a gaming PC that is more capable then your consoles it makes sense to buy the MPs on it.

SKMBlake said:
Nate4Drake said:

You are not rude by any means, simply you don't know about Nintendo Switch hardware capabilities...it is really really weak compared to PS4, and it can't handle big AAA demanding 3rd party titles. Easy as that.  Can you understand what I said in my post ? The previous one...

Actually, I do know the capabilities of the Switch's hardware. But you're not. Or think you do but you don't. And you clearly don't know its library either to say the Switch can only handle not demanding games. Of course it's weaker than the PS4, that doesn't mean it can't run PS4 games at all.

 

If you think that Doom , Doom Eternal, Wolfenstein II or Warframe aren't demanding AAA games, I don't know what they are. And the whole games are ported to the Switch, they're aren't half-baked port with lot of content missing.

Of course there are visuals downgrades. But not a single AAA game ported to the Switch have its content cut. Either the whole game is ported, or isn't at all.

I'm gonna assume you don't have a Switch so it is kind of pointless to clearly know what the hardware is capable of. But what developpers, and mostly Panic Button, are achieving when they port games on the Switch is mindblowing. 

None of these games are top of class, sorry to tell you. At least not on Switch. And the reason Doom port was somewhat acceptable was that they cutting 60 to 30fps already gave they a lot of leverage. Even if usually fans of the platform are on the 60fps is the most important thing for gaming because usually the top games on it are 60fps.

pokoko said:
I think we'll know that a Nintendo console has good third party support when no one feels the need to make insecure threads defending its third party support. That, and when we no longer see passive-aggressive "third party games suck anyway" comments.

I like more the definition someone else gave here. When you don't have to guess if a game is coming to that platform or not then it had a good support.

So we know Japanese games aren't goodly supported in Xbox but almost everything else is. On Switch it is at most ok.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Good third party support = when any random third-party multi-platform game from a respected studio is announced you assume that it's for x platform and you're kinda surprised if it isn't. The Switch clearly doesn't have that.

Case in point: Bethesda (or at least Bethesda's) games are listed throughout this thread and others as an example of the Switch having "good third party support", but even then when Fallout 76 was announced, people generally didn't assume it was coming to Switch, and weren't surprised when it wasn't. Same thing goes for Ubisoft and Beyond Good and Evil 2. As good as Ubisoft has been about supporting the Switch, and I know that game is nowhere close to released, but is anyone gonna be scratching their head if it doesn't come to Switch? I doubt it. I bet the average gaming enthusiast would be more shocked if it doesn't appear on PS5 and that console doesn't even exist.

Last edited by potato_hamster - on 13 January 2019

potato_hamster said:

Good third party support = when any random third-party multi-platform game from a respected studio is announced you assume that it's for x platform and you're kinda surprised if it isn't. The Switch clearly doesn't have that.

Case in point: Bethesda (or at least Bethesda's) games are listed throughout this thread and others as an example of the Switch having "good third party support", but even then when Fallout 76 was announced, people generally didn't assume it was coming to Switch, and weren't surprised when it wasn't. Same thing goes for Ubisoft and Beyond Good and Evil 2. As good as Ubisoft has been about supporting the Switch, and I know that game is nowhere close to released, but is anyone gonna be scratching their head if it doesn't come to Switch? I doubt it. I bet the average gaming enthusiast would be more shocked if it doesn't appear on PS5 and that console doesn't even exist.

And no one will justify it not coming to PS5 with "but when the game started to be developed they didn't knew our system was going to release". Seems like Reggie never saw a release of a console with several games that were in development for like 4 years and only in the last year they had specs for the next gen system they ported it over.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."