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Who would win in battle?

Mumm-Ra 15 39.47%
 
Skeletor 19 50.00%
 
80s cartoons suck 4 10.53%
 
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super_etecoon said:
TalonMan said:

...well, Kirby called the Thundercats a "shitty show", so of course I was going to respond in kind by calling He-Man idiotic. :P

Holy goodness.  I'm really curious as to what cartoons of that day he didn't find idiotic.  I'm guessing he had a Snarf plushie and still has it and rejects his love for all things Thundercat as a coping mechanism.  Well kirby?  Is is time to share?

I did have a shitload of transformers, but we didnt have that much thundercats merch over here so i missed out on that



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axumblade said:
I am torn between my appreciation for Skeletor and my loyalty (is that what it's called) to Talonman over Kirby?

You voted well!



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kirby007 said:
super_etecoon said:

Holy goodness.  I'm really curious as to what cartoons of that day he didn't find idiotic.  I'm guessing he had a Snarf plushie and still has it and rejects his love for all things Thundercat as a coping mechanism.  Well kirby?  Is is time to share?

I did have a shitload of transformers, but we didnt have that much thundercats merch over here so i missed out on that

Nice...those were great toys.  I was lucky enough to have Optimus Prime, but the majority of my transforming robot toys were Gobots.  The rest of my money went directly to buying an NES.  Spent an entire summer working on my dad's construction site for .25/hour to afford it.  And I'm not exagerating that number.  



super_etecoon said:
kirby007 said:

I did have a shitload of transformers, but we didnt have that much thundercats merch over here so i missed out on that

Nice...those were great toys.  I was lucky enough to have Optimus Prime, but the majority of my transforming robot toys were Gobots.  The rest of my money went directly to buying an NES.  Spent an entire summer working on my dad's construction site for .25/hour to afford it.  And I'm not exagerating that number.  

You made 2 dollar a day? Holy crap well that must have deffo given you the value ( or is it worth? ) of money



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kirby007 said:
super_etecoon said:

Nice...those were great toys.  I was lucky enough to have Optimus Prime, but the majority of my transforming robot toys were Gobots.  The rest of my money went directly to buying an NES.  Spent an entire summer working on my dad's construction site for .25/hour to afford it.  And I'm not exagerating that number.  

You made 2 dollar a day? Holy crap well that must have deffo given you the value ( or is it worth? ) of money

It truly did.  And if my brother or I fought on the clock (which we did a lot) we would be docked hours.  Pretty brutal, but I didn't know any different.  I just knew every hour bought me a pack of garbage pail kids cards or a game of space invaders (the only arcade cabinet we had in town), and it seemed worth it.  And I do believe saving up for the NES (with ROB) was worth it.  I didn't have many games and had to borrow most from my friends, but going from having to wait all summer for the arcade to come to town with the fair vs playing super mario in my own house was unbelievable.  



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pokoko said:

Dravenet7 said: 

Skeletor fights He Man and a squad so powerful, they literally call themselves the masters of the universe with no real equal

Hah, right.  That's like if Peter Griffin started calling himself the Fastest Man In the Universe because he beat Homer Simpson in a footrace.  Ram-man and Orko couldn't even pass tryouts for the Cleveland Browns.

Admittedly, what I said was largely an exaggeration. However, I'd argue that analogy is an even bigger exaggeration, but fair enough it calls out my point and I concede on that.

However, even He-Man's lowest common denominator of teamates are on average more useful that Lion-O's lowest common denominator of teamates, which would be Snarf.

super_etecoon said:

I'll give it to you that Mummra would probably win in a fight. Skeletor is a bit bumbling and is easily thwarted. But please, go easy on the whole crew. They mean well and they are powerful visions of a better past.

That senetence doesn't work unless you make Skeletor to Skeletor's henchmen. Skeletor in never himself bumbling.

Mumm ra on the other hand... had this happen against Snarf



Dravenet7 said:

Mumm ra on the other hand... had this happen against Snarf

All right, well, hang on. You saying that if Snarf-Ra had shown up in Eternia, he couldn't have dealt with Skeletor, too? Snarf-Ra had stumbled into some awesome power (possibly diminishing Mumm-Ra's in the process; who knows how thin the Ancient Spirits of Evil can be spread?) and had the advantage of surprise. Could happen to any villain.



I've got to admit, though, that Skeletor had a nice ride.



donathos said:

All right, well, hang on. You saying that if Snarf-Ra had shown up in Eternia, he couldn't have dealt with Skeletor, too? Snarf-Ra had stumbled into some awesome power (possibly diminishing Mumm-Ra's in the process; who knows how thin the Ancient Spirits of Evil can be spread?) and had the advantage of surprise. Could happen to any villain.

That's exactly what I'm saying, because Mumm Ra is a joke. Snarf didn't *stumble* into some awesome power nor did he have the element of surprise. 

He was literally chained next to the ASOE with a chain that was, quite foreseeably, easily broken. Also turning into Snarf Ra didn't drain Mumm Ra as Mumm Ra would have known his power was siphoned. Its not as if Mumm Ra's hideout was the next town over it was some significant distance. Even if it was close, Mumm Ra would have noticed the power slip while fighting Lion-O, who he had the element of surprise over in the first place. Who ties up their enemy next to their literal well of power with so much time and planning on your side, and leaves them there unattended? Who? I can't get over that. 

 Aside from that, its not even the only embarrassing loss he had (though I'd argue its the most embarrassing). 

This dude bodied him with relative ease, Mumm Ra points to Lion-O as a better challenge to get this dude off his back, and the literal man-child Lion-O beats this guy so bad he leaves the planet and never returns to the series.

I'm not saying that Skeletor would sandbag Snarf Ra, but he would totally sandbag Snarf Ra. Skeletor unlike Mumm Ra knows how to use his power and knows how to use the powers of his enemies against them. He-Man is significantly more powerful than anyone in Thundercats and there are times Skeletor is too much trouble in a one on one situation. Skeletor actually spends times planning and has the skill to adapt to most situations. Mumm Ra, however only has a vast power that he continuously uses poorly, which is why a Snarf Ra created for the first time without his vast knowledge was able to beat him.



Dravenet7 said:

That's exactly what I'm saying, because Mumm Ra is a joke. Snarf didn't *stumble* into some awesome power nor did he have the element of surprise. 

He was literally chained next to the ASOE with a chain that was, quite foreseeably, easily broken. Also turning into Snarf Ra didn't drain Mumm Ra as Mumm Ra would have known his power was siphoned. Its not as if Mumm Ra's hideout was the next town over it was some significant distance. Even if it was close, Mumm Ra would have noticed the power slip while fighting Lion-O, who he had the element of surprise over in the first place. Who ties up their enemy next to their literal well of power with so much time and planning on your side, and leaves them there unattended? Who? I can't get over that. 

On reflection, you make some good points, and they have caused me to reconsider this entire situation...

Snarf was literally chained next to the ASOE with a chain that was, quite foreseeably, easily broken, just as you say... Who ties up their enemy next to their literal well of power and leaves them there unattended...?

In fact, have you considered that Mumm-Ra knew exactly what he was doing -- and did this all intentionally? Think about it. Snarf had to call upon what -- the Ancient Spirits of Evil -- to effect his grand rescue. Precisely like Mumm-Ra knew he would.

Using that kind of dark power, like reading the Necronomicon or summoning the Cenobites, does not come without consequence. I submit that what appears to you to be a tactical blunder was in actuality a strategic master stroke. Mumm-Ra is playing the long game, slowly corrupting the ThunderCats... from within.

And as for this...

Dravenet7 said:

This dude bodied him with relative ease, Mumm Ra points to Lion-O as a better challenge to get this dude off his back, and the literal man-child Lion-O beats this guy so bad he leaves the planet and never returns to the series.

There's no shame in taking this L. That was the Demolisher, dude. The Greatest Warrior in the Galaxy.

If Lion-O was able to take Demolisher down in the end, it's because the battle with Mumm-Ra had already pushed him to the limit.