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Well, most of us have heard of Elizabeth Warren, current Democrat Senator for Massachusetts.  Or as some have come to know her, Pocahontas or Fauxcahontas.  I guess in attempt to strike back at Trump and pave a way for her presidential run in 2020, she decided to finally take that DNA test people were asking her to take to prove her Cherokee heritage.  Turns out, people were right to mock her for claiming to be a minority to gain a better position in life.  According to the results, she could be anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th Native American.  Best case scenario, she is 1.56% Native American.  But, should could very well be 0.098%.  Of course, either is way too small to legally claim anything.  And she even had to the gall to put up a vid on Youtube trumpeting the results.  I think in many American's eyes, she just became a bigger joke than she already was.  And I bet it will be her primary opponents who will be trumpeting that vid, not her, come 2020.

To make matters worst, the Cherokee Nation actually came out against her claims. "A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America.  Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

I think the most pathetic part, however, is the fact that many Dems are actually backing her up.  Defending her use of her supposed heritage to get positions at various colleges, meaning she actually took those jobs from true minorities, and instead using it to bash Trump for some bet he said he would make with her if she became the Democratic nominee.  Really, if less than 2% of minority DNA is needed to call ourselves minorities, then all Americans should be able to do so.  I guess that does mean no more racism.  Of course, that doesn't bode well for identity politics.

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 16 October 2018

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1/64th is less than 1%?



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RolStoppable said:
1/64th is less than 1%?

Oh, you're right.  It's actually 1.56%.  I'll fix it.  Still doesn't change the message of the post, however.



RolStoppable said:
1/64th is less than 1%?

I'll admit I entered this thread not knowing who the person was and read this far.... now I leave this thread not knowing who the person is but knowing that OP can't %



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Ganoncrotch said:
RolStoppable said:
1/64th is less than 1%?

I'll admit I entered this thread not knowing who the person was and read this far.... now I leave this thread not knowing who the person is but knowing that OP can't %

So is the most pathetic part still the fact that many dems are actually backing her up, or is it that OP can't count %? This thread is very confusing indeed ... (joking, OP is fine ... and he's close ... kind of ...)

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Isn't it par for the course in American politics that both the democrats and republicans have pathetic nominees? What makes this specific one worth discussing?

Relevant anecdote from the past NFL weekend: I was watching Jaguars@Cowboys on Puls 4 (Austrian free-TV) and the live feed had a "Next up" for 60 Minutes that showed Donald Trump. One of the Austrian commentators instantly said, "Oh look, the Americans will follow up sports with comedy."



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RolStoppable said:
Isn't it par for the course in American politics that both the democrats and republicans have pathetic nominees? What makes this specific one worth discussing?

Relevant anecdote from the past NFL weekend: I was watching Jaguars@Cowboys on Puls 4 (Austrian free-TV) and the live feed had a "Next up" for 60 Minutes that showed Donald Trump. One of the Austrian commentators instantly said, "Oh look, the Americans will follow up sports with comedy."

So you defend this with whataboutism?  I could have sworn the Left was done with whataboutism.  At least they seemed to have a problem when the Trump supporters used it.

The reason this is worth discussing is that not only are the Dems supposed to be the party of the minority, where this woman lied for decades about her heritage to advance in life, taking actual jobs from minorities, but it also shows the ridiculous double standards Dems have for themselves versus the rest of the world.  I mean, just in the past few months we had the Kavanaugh "guilty before proven innocent" from an accusation of 36 years ago, with absolutely no proof, while at the same time the 2nd in command of the DNC was being accused of assault from just 2 years ago, with the woman claiming to actually have proof.  Of course, they defend their guy, instead of adopting the standard they want for everyone else, just kick them out.  Now, we have the Left calling racism left and right, talking about how bad cultural appropriation is, but are now defending a woman who actually did culturally appropriate.  And not because she thought a Eastern dress looked cool, so she wore it, but to actually get positions as a "person of color."

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thismeintiel said:
RolStoppable said:
Isn't it par for the course in American politics that both the democrats and republicans have pathetic nominees? What makes this specific one worth discussing?

Relevant anecdote from the past NFL weekend: I was watching Jaguars@Cowboys on Puls 4 (Austrian free-TV) and the live feed had a "Next up" for 60 Minutes that showed Donald Trump. One of the Austrian commentators instantly said, "Oh look, the Americans will follow up sports with comedy."

So you defend this with whataboutism?  I could have sworn the Left was done with whataboutism.  At least they seemed to have a problem when the Trump supporters used it.

The reason this is worth discussing is that not only are the Dems supposed to be the party of the minority, where this woman lied for decades about her heritage to advance in life, but it also shows the ridiculous double standards Dems have for themselves versus the rest of the world.  I mean, just in the past few months we had the Kavanaugh "guilty before proven innocent" from an accusation of 36 years ago, with absolutely no proof, while at the same time the 2nd in command of the DNC was being accused of assault from just 2 years ago, with the woman claiming to actually have proof.  Of course, they defend their guy, instead of adopting the standard they want for everyone else, just kick them out.  Now, we have the Left calling racism left and right, talking about how bad cultural appropriation is, but are now defending a woman who actually did cultural appropriate.  And not because she thought a Eastern dress looked cool, so she wore it, but to actually get positions as a "person of color."

I am not defending it. I thought my post was as clear of an attack against the USA's way of doing politics as it can come.

The most entertaining thing about American politics is that they have effectively a two-party-system and its supporters keep accusing the other side of hypocrisy and double standards, seemingly oblivious to how omnipresent hypocrisy and double standards are among both parties.



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Trump exaggerate's in the slightest about anything and he instantly becomes a target again, but Warren exaggerates and it doesn't matter because it would mean Trump paying so that's ok. The fact they completely believed Trump meant any fraction whatsoever counted, makes it clear why they completely believed Ford as well. They can't read between the lines or outside of them. Whatever is said, in terms of words alone, is exactly what is meant to them, period. Tone, facial expressions, body language, etc, means nothing.



No matter how they try to downplay it, she has Native American pedigree "6-10 generations ago." Dr. Carlos Bustamante, a renowned geneticist. "The error rate is less than one-in-a-thousand", he said.

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