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I know it's probably just a dream at this point, especially with idiotic decisions by, ahem, a certain Western superpower since 2016, but it's still a nice thought to have.

Are there ways, any at all, to reverse climate change? Would it help if we planted new forests, reduced our garbage output, used more renewable energy sources, invested further into water bottles and re-hydration stations, etc?

I try my hardest to help out, I'm even trying to use lights that are more energy efficient. What else can we do?



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Very difficult. The atmosperic changes with more Methane or carbon dioxide lead to the athmosphere keeping infrared radiation (heat radiation) from escaping in space, while sunlight comes through. So sunlight absorbed by the earth is converted in heat and this heat can escape slower than before. To reverse it you may try different things. First, you could reverse the effect of the athmosphere keeping heat radiation on earth. Best bet would to artificially remove carbon dioxide and methane from the athmosphere. Secondly we could reduce the solar input, meaning reflecting more sunlight before it even reaches earth. Both ways are very difficult.



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The hardest part is making change on a global scale. It is already hard to get state to state energy efficient efforts, imagine nations.



Mnementh said:
Very difficult. The atmosperic changes with more Methane or carbon dioxide lead to the athmosphere keeping infrared radiation (heat radiation) from escaping in space, while sunlight comes through. So sunlight absorbed by the earth is converted in heat and this heat can escape slower than before. To reverse it you may try different things. First, you could reverse the effect of the athmosphere keeping heat radiation on earth. Best bet would to artificially remove carbon dioxide and methane from the athmosphere. Secondly we could reduce the solar input, meaning reflecting more sunlight before it even reaches earth. Both ways are very difficult.

Especially with how corporations hate clean energy because it'll cost them a fortune. Wouldn't surprise me if they were willing to even commit murder just to keep their agenda going.



We can certainly make some positive strides and I would hope they we could develop technologies in tandem that will keep this rock hospitable to humans. We'll pbviously have to expand into space as well. Our population is simply growing too rapidly.



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CaptainExplosion said:
Mnementh said:
Very difficult. The atmosperic changes with more Methane or carbon dioxide lead to the athmosphere keeping infrared radiation (heat radiation) from escaping in space, while sunlight comes through. So sunlight absorbed by the earth is converted in heat and this heat can escape slower than before. To reverse it you may try different things. First, you could reverse the effect of the athmosphere keeping heat radiation on earth. Best bet would to artificially remove carbon dioxide and methane from the athmosphere. Secondly we could reduce the solar input, meaning reflecting more sunlight before it even reaches earth. Both ways are very difficult.

Especially with how corporations hate clean energy because it'll cost them a fortune. Wouldn't surprise me if they were willing to even commit murder just to keep their agenda going.

You have the wrong view on that: After these companies emitted greenhouse gases and brought climate change upon us - they can now sell their new technology to reduce climate change. Everyone wins. Well, actually only corporate america wins.



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StuOhQ said:
We can certainly make some positive strides and I would hope they we could develop technologies in tandem that will keep this rock hospitable to humans. We'll pbviously have to expand into space as well. Our population is simply growing too rapidly.

Guess we haven't used enough condoms and/or killed enough terrorists.

Mnementh said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Especially with how corporations hate clean energy because it'll cost them a fortune. Wouldn't surprise me if they were willing to even commit murder just to keep their agenda going.

You have the wrong view on that: After these companies emitted greenhouse gases and brought climate change upon us - they can now sell their new technology to reduce climate change. Everyone wins. Well, actually only corporate america wins.

So you're saying we shouldn't invest in these clean energy technologies because of corporate assholes?



CaptainExplosion said:
StuOhQ said:
We can certainly make some positive strides and I would hope they we could develop technologies in tandem that will keep this rock hospitable to humans. We'll pbviously have to expand into space as well. Our population is simply growing too rapidly.

Guess we haven't used enough condoms and/or killed enough terrorists.

Mnementh said:

You have the wrong view on that: After these companies emitted greenhouse gases and brought climate change upon us - they can now sell their new technology to reduce climate change. Everyone wins. Well, actually only corporate america wins.

So you're saying we shouldn't invest in these clean energy technologies because of corporate assholes?

Oh, I talked about athmospheric engineering. Clean energy won't reverse climate change, but stop making it worse. The grenhouse gases already released will keep on changing the climate for about the next hundred years. With clean energy, we don't make it worse, but we don't make it better.

Anyways, every company ever will become greedy and will attract corporate assholes. Even when they start out nice. See, Google had the motto 'Don't be evil'. They avoided evil stuff and even left china after they were asked to censor. They changed the motto to 'Do the right thing' and now they work with the military (project maven) and the chinese government (project dragonfly). Corporate assholes will take over.

But this doesn't mean you can't steer corporate assholes. Corporate assholes have a pretty simple artificial intelligence... err... I meant intelligence: they go after the most profit. So, if you as a consumer make technologies or methods that help the planet more profitable, the assholes will be all over it.



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StuOhQ said:
We'll pbviously have to expand into space as well. Our population is simply growing too rapidly.

This is something of a myth.  The total fertility rate for the planet is just a little bit over replacement and has been falling for decades.  This is particularly true in developed countries.  You take Africa out of the equation and we'd already be well below replacement.  I expect we'll fall below replacement within my lifetime and never go above it again.

Beyond which, expanding into space as a means for stabilizing a population isn't remotely possible.  Even if you started shooting something unrealistic like 50,000 people into space a day, using a ton of resources to do so, it'd still take over half a century to get your first billion people off the planet.  If population growth were an actual problem, presumably the gains would be eaten up long before that.



We can't no matter what we do. Earth is simply destined to be vapourized by our sun even if we do have a global solution to geoengineering ... 

Trying to cut emissions at the expense of productivity is futile. The action probably won't make any ultimate difference the way earth becomes uninhabitable because sooner or later Earth will move out of the goldilocks zone as long as the sun keeps expanding ... 

The only realistic alternative to move away from extracting energy in petrochemicals without heavy deindustrialization is by temporarily adopting nuclear fission. The Green's who lobbies the hardest against climate change have to make compromise to accept nuclear energy cause following Germany's quick route to decommissioning nuclear reactors means that their citizens and residents are getting less value for their money for the amount of energy they pay for ... 

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