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Should Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS Nomination Continue?

Yes 53 47.32%
 
No 41 36.61%
 
Trump should pick a new canidate 18 16.07%
 
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COKTOE said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Amen to that snoopy!

There shouldn't be. I have faith.

Well, given the political demographics of the site, the contentious nature of the subject matter, and the way things usually unfold around here, I'd say you have a good chance of being disappointed. ;) 

Dont worry, I'll handle it if it gets out of control anyways. So I'm not worried.



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Signalstar said:
No it should not continue. Kavanaugh proved he is a vengeful, partisan hack with his responses yesterday. He blamed democrats and the left for conspiring against him. He will be a judge for all Americans but he showed his animus to half the country. He only did this because he knows he only needs 51 votes rather than 60. The lower threshold means he only has to appeal to the conservative base. Trump should pick another conservative judge.

Which was the precedent sat by the democrats. So hes just playing by the current rules in place really. 



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Signalstar said:
No it should not continue. Kavanaugh proved he is a vengeful, partisan hack with his responses yesterday. He blamed democrats and the left for conspiring against him. He will be a judge for all Americans but he showed his animus to half the country. He only did this because he knows he only needs 51 votes rather than 60. The lower threshold means he only has to appeal to the conservative base. Trump should pick another conservative judge.

Which was the precedent sat by the democrats. So hes just playing by the current rules in place really. 

Mitch McConnell lowered the threshold from 60 to 51 for Supreme Court picks. After not considering the last nominees for more than 400 days.



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Signalstar said:
No it should not continue. Kavanaugh proved he is a vengeful, partisan hack with his responses yesterday. He blamed democrats and the left for conspiring against him. He will be a judge for all Americans but he showed his animus to half the country. He only did this because he knows he only needs 51 votes rather than 60. The lower threshold means he only has to appeal to the conservative base. Trump should pick another conservative judge.

Pretty much this. Disregarding anything to do with Ford, he proved that he is not fit and should not serve on the Supreme Court and make decisions for the entire country if he is so obviously partisan. It's a sad state of affairs that he'll probably be seated on the Court, but I really don't expect much else from Republicans anymore.



I don't know. This all sounds extremely shady to me. These abuse claims by women should always be heard, but that doesn't mean they should all automatically be believed. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when this simple point needs to be brought forward.

I think this is politically motivated. I've heard this women is a huge "resistance" type, who scrubbed all of her social media posts shortly before this allegation. They she has all these hazy details, of which she can't remember any specifics about where this party was 36 years ago, how she got there, etc. But no, she's absolutely CERTAIN the guy was Kavanaugh. And apparently all of the witnesses she mentioned deny her claims. And, also, there's apparently ZERO other allegations that span the course of like 50 years with this guy being so heavily in the public sphere? Hmmm.

I'm not even a conservative. I'm merely looking at evidence and considering motivations, and this just stinks of a politically motivated move designed to disrupt and delay the hated Trump nomination until the midterms, which I suppose the Dems assume they're going to win. It seems quite obvious to me.. It's sad really, because it discredits those millions out there who are ACTUALLY survivors of assault and rape. And the way the Dems are handling all of this just makes them look worse than ever, if that was even possible..

At least this week long investigation by the FBI (god knows what the hell they're going to investigate specifically, especially since the guy's apparently had several background checks already), and it'll be settled one way or another by next week.



 

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Sure. Allegations are allegations, especially with it being 36 years ago. The guy seems to be squeaky clean, I think that abused victims could choose much better targets. I really don't know why abuse victims would rally behind something that is potentially false, I would choose something with more damning evidence... He might have done something, but as far as I am concerned 36 years is a long time, and he doesn't appear to have continued such abuse. If evidence is shown that he did do abuse, of course punish him in the court of law. Either way Trump's 2nd choice is probably just as bad if not worse knowing him.



Don't meltdown because I'm neither for or agaisnt but what happens to her if they somehow prove she's lying? Is there any punishment at all? And if somehow they prove she's lying what's the implications with all this? If you wanna work in the government when you're older, wear a video cam 24/7 and save the footage.



Jicale said:
Don't meltdown because I'm neither for or agaisnt but what happens to her if they somehow prove she's lying? Is there any punishment at all? And if somehow they prove she's lying what's the implications with all this? If you wanna work in the government when you're older, wear a video cam 24/7 and save the footage.

If they 100% prove shes lying,like factual proof, she can go to jail,she would have lied under oath. 



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cycycychris said:
I don't think someone of Kav stature at this point could ever seriously be expected to hear and fairly rule on women rights in the future. his nomination has been a sham and he is in no way fit for the supreme court. Ms. Ford has been put through hell due to this asshole and provided plenty of evidence during here testimony that this is not something that came up all of sudden during the process. People expecting here to recount every detail of an event that happen 30 years ago are just looking for reason to discredit her. Kav refusal to cooperate with a FBI investigation and his hostility toward democrats brings no favors from me towards him. I mean the dude even said Clinton is the reason he is being blamed, we don't need this partisan nutjob on the supreme court. The vote should be delayed and overall a new nominee should be chosen.

She can't remember anything, holes all over her story,people she named in her statements,all denied her story,etc. Kav passed 6 background checks by the FBI already. This is a political hit,no question about that.  So gotta disagree all the way with your assessment 

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Signalstar said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Which was the precedent sat by the democrats. So hes just playing by the current rules in place really. 

Mitch McConnell lowered the threshold from 60 to 51 for Supreme Court picks. After not considering the last nominees for more than 400 days.

Harry Reid was the one who started the whole "nuclear option" of only needing 51 votes to approve federal judges.  Mitch McConnell only upped the ante to include a Supreme Court nominee, Gorsuch.  So, this crap started with Harry.  He's the one you should be blaming.