Forums - Politics Discussion - Dalai lama says "Refugees should go home to develop their own countries"

Every site I've looked at to link this has either taken the Dalai Lamas words out of context or snipped them down for either clickbait or agenda driven pieces. I'd advise to look into this yourself before commenting so we can talk about this civilly without it breaking down from people having different information from opinion pieces with intent to devide and mislead or just make a quick buck regardless. 

For the purposes of the thread I'll link to the independent and clip from wikipedia (which frustratingly seems to also be snipped misleadingly, however at least it tries to be objective in it's approach) again, I strongly suggest looking at further sources to get a more broad understanding of the Dalai lamas speech in Sweden. If anyone can find a better scource, I'll add it to the OP.

Dalai Lama says ‘Europe belongs to the Europeans’ and suggests refugees return to native countries | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dalai-lama-europe-refugee-crisis-immigration-eu-racism-tibet-buddhist-a8537221.html

From wikis last entry on the Dalai Lama history ... 

"In 2018, he stated that "Europe belongs to the Europeans" and that Europe has a moral obligation to aid refugees whose lives are in peril. Further he stated that Europe should receive, help and educate refugees but ultimately they should return to develop their home countries.[242]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalai_Lama

I'd like to know your thoughts, lets discuss his words based on what information we are given so far, maturally and respectfully of each others opinions.  Hopefully we can get a clearer picture of his words and intentions, further statements or a full unedited transcript on the matter as the outrage dies down and I'll update the OP as soon as I can. 

EDIT: A video from Tim Pool.

Last edited by Aura7541 - on 15 September 2018

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Yeah, I understand what he means, but he worded it wrong, and from what I remember about those countries developing them is nearly impossible, thanks to scum like Islamic State and Assad's regime.



True.

And it would certainly help if a certain "superpower" would mind to ease a little on the bombings. One would almost believe that this "superpower" intended to cripple Europe and the countries of the refugees.




I mean, what he's saying isn't wrong, but that still makes him a massive hypocrite considering he fled Tibet as a refugee rather than attempted to "develop" there.



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CaptainExplosion said:

Yeah, I understand what he means, but he worded it wrong, and from what I remember about those countries developing them is nearly impossible, thanks to scum like Islamic State and Assad's regime.

Yeah, agreed. I think this is mainly getting such bad attention for the wording, that and the  media twisting it further. I believe I know his intent here and he would be correct but to say it in Sweden of all places, I mean, did anyone close to him read ehat he was going to say. 

I too think migrants in Europe should return to there countries as soon as it's feasble or dig in here and be productive and perhaps do what the polish have done or the Irish in the past and rebuild their countries from afar. It seems most stay for the welfare and have no plans past that, it causes all sorts of problems and in my town they beg every day while receiving welfare, cause a great deal of crime and bring so much racism, especially to the black people around here. Of course my own experience is but a microcosm of Europe and I have to completely disagree with the Dalai lama when he says 'Europe is for Europeans" We are accepting here and have accepted otherwise their would be no migrants to comment on however our individual cultures should be respected by those migrants and while taking shelter in another's country with weekly aid one should respect the laws, cultures and citizens of that country so I completely agree with the Dalai lama when he says they should go home and "develop their own countries" or at least work on that from where they are now, even if that takes money out of our country it has been shown by other immigrant in the past two decades that it can have a very positive effect on lower end sectors, enough to offset the cost. However staying on welfare , committing crimes and abusing our citizens helps no one, least of all the migrants. 

I hope to gwt a full transcript of what he said but I'm very glad he said it as it's an issue that needs light shed upon it again and regularly. Hopefully create a situation where there is light at the end of the tunnel for European, migrants and economic immigrants for that matter too who often get lumped in with refugees. 



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Ka-pi96 said:

I mean, what he's saying isn't wrong, but that still makes him a massive hypocrite considering he fled Tibet as a refugee rather than attempted to "develop" there.

He would instantly get arrested by the Chinese government if he returned to Tibet.



I would never tell a refugee to return. What they fled is horrifying, and even if the Islamic State is completely crushed soon, another terror organization will rise in it's ashes. If you kill one extremist another rises to takes his/her place. One can't rebuild or develop a country or a part of the world overrun with that kind of mentality, and pressuring those to return who have seen their entire lives destroyed based on some principle of developing their homelands seems rather strange to me.



Aura7541 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I mean, what he's saying isn't wrong, but that still makes him a massive hypocrite considering he fled Tibet as a refugee rather than attempted to "develop" there.

He would instantly get arrested by the Chinese government if he returned to Tibet.

And a lot of the middle eastern refugees would get shot or blown up if they returned to their countries, so it's definitely comparable.



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I don't see why Europe should be obligated in accepting "refugees" The west aren't the only developed nations on this planet.



Replicant said:

True.

And it would certainly help if a certain "superpower" would mind to ease a little on the bombings. One would almost believe that this "superpower" intended to cripple Europe and the countries of the refugees.

Since such arguments and theories are about the USA and Russia alike, you have to be more specific.



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