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In August 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans and 1833 people were killed.  The Bush Administration earned widespread condemnation for the government’s poor response.  The unbroken chain of bad decisions showcased how thoroughly unprepared the government and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) was to appropriately respond.  It was as big a PR disaster as it was a humanitarian disaster.

It was a learning experience from the top down, and you’d think the government would know how to act in the face of the next great hurricane.  That, I should point out, is expecting more from Beloved Leader than he is capable of doing.

Beloved Leader announced on Aug 28 2017 that he would gut FEMA by 667 million dollars, specifically targeting grants that would fund State and local governments in their preparation for natural disasters and terrorist attacks.   Another 62 million was on the chopping block for the National Weather Service, 5 million of which would have been spent on experimental prediction models to forecast the weather a month ahead of time rather than two weeks. Not smart.  Mercifully, the Republican Party flip-flopped on this in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, but FEMA was, and still is, poorly managed.

In the midst of his usual daily blundering, Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico. It should be pointed out that Puerto Rico was acquired by the former U.S. in 1898, Puerto Ricans became officially recognized as American in 1917, and fully fell under Congress’ jurisdiction in 1950. These people deserved competent, coordinated action from West Korea.  Instead, the Death Toll from Maria, largely due to the neglect of the West Korean government in their assistance, has been officially assessed at 2975 people dead, eclipsing that of Katrina.

FEMA released a report detailing how unprepared they were:  https://www.fema.gov/media-library/assets/documents/167249 so much for Beloved Leader hiring “the best people”.

Beloved Leader gave himself a “10 out of 10” for his handling of the situation.  “It’s been incredible results that we’ve had with respect to loss of life.” He was also quoted as saying.  I guess he’s correct; it is pretty incredible that his mismanagement and incompetence made Bush 2 look good.  But to Beloved Leader’s credit, he did throw some paper towels into a crowd of Puerto Ricans.  I’m sure that was helpful in some way.

The sad fact is that it won’t be long before hurricane season starts up again, and West Korea is cripplingly incapable of helping out her citizens in a time of disaster.  It is due to the poor leadership and dysfunctional spectacle of chaos and failure that has been trademarked by the Oval Office.  Presented with a damning report of the human cost his so-called “leadership” has wrought, he applauds himself rather than improve the institutions he is responsible for.  Instead, he is facilitating their decline and is committed to inaction that is bordering criminal incompetence.

FEMA remains in a sorry state at present. Hundreds of positions are unfilled and the Agency is 26% understaffed.  High turnover has resulted in many of the officials who are actually dispatched are unfamiliar with how the organization does its business. Existing staff are stretched thin.  Only 13% of staff specialized in directing federal aid to cleanup areas are ready for mobilization in the event of a disaster. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hurricane-marias-new-death-toll-estimate-is-higher-than-katrinas/

Beloved Leader is, objectively speaking, a dismal failure as a manager and leader, on such a scale that Jimmy Carter looke like George Washington in comparison. 

 

Do the smart thing (I know that's a lot to ask from his enablers): elect somebody who actually cares about doing a good job in the Oval Office.  The manbaby sitting there is passively jeopardizing the lives of his citizens.  

 

(EDIT: ADDED SOURCE FOR PRESENT STATE OF FEMA)



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Another state ruined by Democratic corruption for decades.



numberwang said:

Another state ruined by Democratic corruption for decades.

Amazing.  Everything you said was wrong.

FEMA's watchdog agency praised it for being "effective" and "efficient" during the Obama Administration, particularly with their response to Hurricane Sandy.  

The improvement under Obama's leadership did not go unnoticed.   https://newrepublic.com/article/89135/fema-disasters-tornado-midwest-obama.

It's been quite the fall from grace in the mere 20 months from Obama's departure, but that's what happens when you remove competent, capable people from positions of authority and leadership, only to replace them with the unqualified.

The corruption you mention is not from the Democrats, and it's also pretty new.  Womp womp.

Bye!



I live in Puerto Rico and went through the whole Maria ordeal. If anyone is to blame that someone is our own corrupt government. They were the ones hiding the true numbers. Everyone knows someone who died from causes related to the hurricane on the island, the local government death toll was a joke. Trump is not my cup of tea but Puerto Rico's current state of affairs (crime, poverty, bad health services etc.) Is entirely on our own government.



SammyGiireal said:

I live in Puerto Rico and went through the whole Maria ordeal. If anyone is to blame that someone is our own corrupt government. They were the ones hiding the true numbers. Everyone knows someone who died from causes related to the hurricane on the island, the local government death toll was a joke. Trump is not my cup of tea but Puerto Rico's current state of affairs (crime, poverty, bad health services etc.) Is entirely on our own government.

Well looks like you ruined OP's entire narrative.  Good work. :)



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SammyGiireal said:

I live in Puerto Rico and went through the whole Maria ordeal. If anyone is to blame that someone is our own corrupt government. They were the ones hiding the true numbers. Everyone knows someone who died from causes related to the hurricane on the island, the local government death toll was a joke. Trump is not my cup of tea but Puerto Rico's current state of affairs (crime, poverty, bad health services etc.) Is entirely on our own government.

FEMA's own internal assessment (first link in OP) identifies the specifics of FEMA's failings in the purview of their own responsibility.  Your governmemt also falls under the jurisdiction of West Korea's Congress (also explained in OP), and Beloved Leader is responsible for his party's (the majority party in Congress) performance in Congress.

 

Your government bears much responsibility, but Beloved Leader's regime failed spectacularly in its own responsibilities.  Beloved Leader's failings, and the failings of the institutions he was entrusted to lead, have rightfully earned every word of criticism in the OP.  Things wouldn't have played out so badly had the hurricane occurred on Obama's watch--or even Bush 2's.



Rpruett said:
SammyGiireal said:

I live in Puerto Rico and went through the whole Maria ordeal. If anyone is to blame that someone is our own corrupt government. They were the ones hiding the true numbers. Everyone knows someone who died from causes related to the hurricane on the island, the local government death toll was a joke. Trump is not my cup of tea but Puerto Rico's current state of affairs (crime, poverty, bad health services etc.) Is entirely on our own government.

Well looks like you ruined OP's entire narrative.  Good work. :)

Trump could have sent a trillion dollars in aid. Our politicians would have been a trillion dollars richer, the feds have found entire wagons of undistributed aid in the past few weeks. Some of our Mayors were keeping the aid for their relatives and friends. The roads in my hometown were absolute trash for weeks because our Mayor was an incompetent fool during the aftermath. My car actually got a nasty dent from a fallen tree that was blocking part of the road for weeks while I was making my way home from work at night. This happened a whole full month after the hurricane hit.Trump was a jack ass during his visit here, but our government told him that only 64 people had died that was the official death toll. Obviously Trump couldn't see the bigger picture but it wasn't his fault. 



SammyGiireal said:

I live in Puerto Rico and went through the whole Maria ordeal. If anyone is to blame that someone is our own corrupt government. They were the ones hiding the true numbers. Everyone knows someone who died from causes related to the hurricane on the island, the local government death toll was a joke. Trump is not my cup of tea but Puerto Rico's current state of affairs (crime, poverty, bad health services etc.) Is entirely on our own government.

Huh.  That does sound like Katrina.



Dude. You need to spread these out a bit more or else someone might think you have an agenda.

Also, using "Dotard" is extremely offensive to all the actually Donaldly challenged people out there.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

As someone who is in the Emergency Services... It's not as simple as "Give more funding".

Trump cannot receive all the blame for the lack of a quality response, it's an issue that goes from top to bottom... From the training that personnel do every day, to the maintenance of vehicles and infrastructure, procurement of new tools, items, PPE... To even the more social side of things like advertising.

It's just like with the fires in California... The issue got out of control thanks to lack of common sense at the top and bottom.
For example... So many houses in California were built out of wood. Wood. In fire-prone areas. Wood.
Why? Because of lobbying by various companies to ensure houses are built form wood.

The firefighter teams themselves also lacked appropriate communication, bombers for instance were working independently from the crew on the ground so they were cross-battling the fire and thus not being as effective as can be by working together. - So some of our Guys actually went over there to help train you Americans on how to tackle the problem much more effectively. (We are the best trained in the world at handling wildfires, it's a yearly thing for us afterall.)

It's not just about money. It's so much more than that.

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