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Bethesda says that all of their games on Switch have been "hugely popular".

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Miyamotoo said:
DélioPT said:

 

Its not point about whats is OK for me, but yes, if we have continued support than yes, I am OK with that. Also you dont know if that is bare minimum or not, dont act like you do.

Maybe, you cant know that, maybe they have new numbers, maybe he was also carried away and said hugely popular, but at end point is same, they are satisfied with sale. Skyrim is one of most popular 3rd party games on Switch, so yeah we can say its quite popular game on Switch, espacily when Switch has install base of around 20m.

When i said the bare minimum i was talking about sales, release schedules, support from 3rd parties, not stealing customers from Sony and MS, etc. .
And with that in mind, you have shown that you are fine with things just… working. The last time we talked you said that the 1st semester line-up was more than fine. From what i read here, those 20Million consoles probably won't be so easy to achieve. Why? We discussed this before and you dind't see a problem there, so there's no point in resuming that conversation - also keeping in mind that it would be WAY off-topic..

This is what i am talking about: if it works well, it's enough for you. And it's your right to think that way, you just have the habit of criticising others for not settling for whatever good news come out.

Just look at your second paragraph: "maybe he was also carried away and said hugely popular,"
When i said it, i had an agenda.

I'm glad they are satisfied because that means they will keep their support.
But i have the right to question why they were satisfied: was it because expectations were low; sales were way higher than vgchartz has them? It's a honest question.
And i still say that it doesn't add up being satisfied in April and calling them hugely popular a few months after. To me, it's either he exaggerated or expectations were low. 



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DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

Its not point about whats is OK for me, but yes, if we have continued support than yes, I am OK with that. Also you dont know if that is bare minimum or not, dont act like you do.

Maybe, you cant know that, maybe they have new numbers, maybe he was also carried away and said hugely popular, but at end point is same, they are satisfied with sale. Skyrim is one of most popular 3rd party games on Switch, so yeah we can say its quite popular game on Switch, espacily when Switch has install base of around 20m.

When i said the bare minimum i was talking about sales, release schedules, support from 3rd parties, not stealing customers from Sony and MS, etc. .And with that in mind, you have shown that you are fine with things just… working.

The last time we talked you said that the 1st semester line-up was more than fine. From what i read here, those 20Million consoles probably won't be so easy to achieve. Why? We discussed this before and you dind't see a problem there, so there's no point in resuming that conversation - also keeping in mind that it would be WAY off-topic..

This is what i am talking about: if it works well, it's enough for you. And it's your right to think that way, you just have the habit of criticising others for not settling for whatever good news come out.

Just look at your second paragraph: "maybe he was also carried away and said hugely popular,"
When i said it, i had an agenda.

I'm glad they are satisfied because that means they will keep their support.
But i have the right to question why they were satisfied: was it because expectations were low; sales were way higher than vgchartz has them? It's a honest question.
And i still say that it doesn't add up being satisfied in April and calling them hugely popular a few months after. To me, it's either he exaggerated or expectations were low. 

I am OK with every positive thing, and yes good sales (in worst case good enugh and satisfied sales), continued and increased support, better release schedules...are all positive things, and other hand you keep acting like Switch dont sell great and dont have games, while reailty is quite opposite. I dont see why Nintendo needs to steal customers from MS/Sony, but you do realise that person can have multiple systems, for instance "40% of Switch owners in the US also owned a PS4".

If we talk about line-up, 1st quarter was weaker, 2nd querter was better (April-June), so we can say that 1st 6 months were OK, but from July until years end line up is quite stronger. Maybe they will hit those 20m maybe they will not, but even if they dont hit they will most likly be close to that number. If thats offtopic why you mentione it!?

No, if something works that means its good, you cant act like its bad. So yes, I am OK curently, but I also expecting contined and better support, better sales, better release schedules. Wrong, I criticising others (but on this forum we talking mostly about you in that matter) when they try to twist around good news into something negative.

I said maybe, I gave you couple of possible possibilities, dont act like we talking about certain things.

Of Course you have right, but thats a point, you always questioning every positive news about Switch, even before Switch launch you were negative about Switch and you keep with that like we talking about negative things.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 29 August 2018

Miyamotoo said:
DélioPT said:


I am OK with every positive thing, and yes good sales (in worst case good enugh and satisfied sales), continued and increased support, better release schedules...are all positive things, and other hand you keep acting like Switch dont sell great and dont have games, while reailty is quite opposite. I dont see why Nintendo needs to steal customers from MS/Sony, but you do realise that person can have multiple systems, for instance "40% of Switch owners in the US also owned a PS4".

If we talk about line-up, 1st quarter was weaker, 2nd querter was better (April-June), so we can say that 1st 6 months were OK, but from July until years end line up is quite stronger. Maybe they will hit those 20m maybe they will not, but even if they dont hit they will most likly be close to that number. If thats offtopic why you mentione it!?

No, if something works that means its good, you cant act like its bad. So yes, I am OK curently, but I also expecting contined and better support, better sales, better release schedules. Wrong, I criticising others (but on this forum we talking mostly about you in that matter) when they try to twist around good news into something negative.

I said maybe, I gave you couple of possible possibilities, dont act like we talking about certain things.

Of Course you have right, but thats a point, you always questioning every positive news about Switch, even before Switch launch you were negative about Switch and you keep with that like we talking about negative things.

I will not be extensive about this - as it be clearly off-topic.

"and other hand you keep acting like Switch dont sell great and dont have games, while reailty is quite opposite"
The fact that you still keep accusing me of this is because you dont't read what i write or you read and completely ignore.
  

I never said that Switch isn't sellking really well, nor have i ever implied that it wasn't. The same same goes for the games it's been collecting.
My issue was, is and might keep beeing that there were reasons for it to be better and Nintendo didn't have a sound strategy in place to achieve that goal.

The 1st party offering should have been better and sales showed that in the 2Q.
Regarding the second semester, the only sure fire hit is SMASH Bros. Pokémon Let's Go is not a hit. Other spin-offs failed to live to the results of the main games.
We have no idea how people are going to react to this new type of spinoff. So i'll refrain from speculating.

I don't have a problem when things are doing well or OK. What i MAY have a concern with is when i see that the success is not garanteed and don't see Nintendo doing enough to make that success a structural thing. Hence my comments on the importance of stealing customers from Sony and MS.
When you steal costumers and hurt other people's business it means you solidified and increased yours and didn't just have a good 4/5 years.

I'm not commenting on the rest of Swith comments. Sorry, already did that before and you kept ignoring them - as you would do now.

I don't criticise everything Switch related. I question the results and their real impact everytime i see fit.
Also, i praised a lot Nintendo's strategy of bringing titles like Fortnite, Arena of Valor, Paladins, etc. To me, that's the best move i have seen from them this gen because it's not just good for business to day, but for tomorrow, aswell!