Cheaper for who? Everyone as a whole? Sure. Is it cheaper than it was when I was in my 20's lifting and eating healthy 5 days a week and had absolutely no need or want for health insurance. I've used my health insurance once in the past 14 years it's unnecessary and I have no need for it. If I'm going to be forced to have it then at the very least we need to make exceptions for people who want to eat as much as they want and have absolutely no care in the world for their own health. I refuse to be part of a system where I'm having to pay to take care of obese people with no self control or smokers. Obesity a lone already puts a heavy burden on are healthcare system and it's not getting better.

The government has the ability to impose price control and it already does to a very great extent with Medicare.  There is no reason why we can't do it here.  There is no reason why we can't lower costs.  There is no reason why we can cut waste.  Europe isn't evil you know.  They do it to take care of their people.  There is always some motive with the folks who don't want people to get care or to save money.  That is the real evil holding us back.  Some people, especially conservatives in the US are programmed by politicians to think a certain way and its alarming how fast they bow down to them.   Liberals have similar issues but Conservatives have mastered the ability to get their followers to fight against their own self interest tooth and nail.   Libs aren't quite there yet. 

You're assuming that UHC is the absolute best way to go at any cost. That's still up in the air. So what if Americans don't buy into it? I never said anything about the EU being evil. It is on an authoritarian kick though and it has problems of its own. The only thing the US should adopt from there is the metric system, they can keep the rest. I'm not okay with paying alot higher taxes and ruining our advancement in med for something I rarely ever use. We already have a system we like and that works.

Yeah, I use to be like you.  I never had to go to the hospital in over 30 years but when you do and do not have insurance, you get a rude awakening. I had a friend who was in his 20's and he also lifted weights and ate healthy.  One day he tore some ligament in his pectoral muscle and he did not have insurance at the time or another friend who blew out his knee playing soccer or another one who blew out her ankle when she fell on black ice.  Yep, if you live a charmed life, you never have to worry about those injuries coming out of nowhere and having over 50K or more in medical bills to pay.  The young always feel like there are indestructible until they get destroyed, they come down with an injury, develop a life changing disease or find themselves out of a job.  Another friend of mine who is one of the healthiest person I know came down with Crohn's disease.  His medication cost something like 5k a month and let's not talk about what happens during a outbreak.

You believe we have a system that works but wait until you have to have a procedure where your insurance company will not pay for it and them come back and see how much you like it.  Things always look great as long as nothing bad ever happens to you.

I would like to think that if you knew that I was personally effected by this that you would at least reconsider your stance.  Cost here in the states are preventing me from getting care that I need. I have insurance and a relatively good job.  And still my out of pocket is too high. With a program like UHC, I wouldn't be in pain now. 

The vast majority of countries in the world either have free health care or universal health care.  I will be damned if I let you trick me into thinking that my suffering is 'better' when the care I need is avaliable abroad.  Your perspective is creeping me out.  You make it about what you need right now without having the ability to see the bigger picture.   If you needed Health Care and couldn't afford it, would you then have a change of heart?

But I think the tides are turning and I will prove it by making you a promise.  In 20 years, if something should happen and you need medical care, you will get it here in the US without having to worry about costs because will will not stop fighting for you and each other.  UHC will be law mark my words.  People will look around and say "you know what we can do better and our neighbors are showing us a method that we might be able to make work for us".  We will continue to drive medical advancements and you will be able to afford it because the comparison you made is just a logical fallacy and not intrinsic to some threat presented by access to care. 

I would save you without a second thought. 

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I have no problem with universal health care, but the true enemy right now is the cost of health care. They are not the same issue, and the gov't can't just "fix" it by using cost control methods. If the plan that is mentioned in this article when into effect we'd be back in the Depression.

Even if we would cut our military spending by half we would still spend more on military spending then Russia and China combined.  The US spends more on the military then the next eight countries combined.   

You didn't read the report or any report by the looks of it, it actually cheaper

"Saving of over $2 trillion from what the United States as a whole would spend under the existing system."